R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Electric Off-Road

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 05-04-2007, 09:16 PM   #121
Tech Elite
 
glassdoctor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,250
Trader Rating: 4 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nitro$junkie
Seriously if i saw one electric guy with one battery pack id lagh you guys are nuts gotta have the latest packs out and trust me not just one pac now dont get me started on the brushes and esc yous gotta have to be up front[/font]
Dude... are you even trying to pay attention? Try reading some of the thread before responding. To answer your post quoted here:

YES... one battery can be raced all day, without taking it out of the truck. (8000mah lipo pack)*

NO... you don't need the latest packs (again.. talking lipo here...)

BRUSHES????? Come on... what part of "brushless" do you not get?

Must be some serious sniffage of the nitro fumes for you dude....

To make really clear:
1 battery + 1 esc/motor combo = race every week all summer if you like.

*A 5 minute qualifier only uses about 2500mah or less of the battery. A 8 amp charge it only takes like 15 minutes to top off the battery and be ready for the next round. You can do this all day..... and then run the same battery for 20 + minutes in the main. After that it might take an hour to recharge. And you also don't have to wait for the battery to cool or anything before charging. Just an FYI...
glassdoctor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2007, 09:37 PM   #122
Tech Elite
 
glassdoctor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,250
Trader Rating: 4 (100%+)
Default

You can't compare a entry level RTR to show that nitro is cheaper/better.

CRAPS was clearly talking about racing... and only a complete newb races a box stock RTR. And even at that... a Losi/AE RTR is more than $300... and you still have to buy several gallons of fuel and some plugs, and a good ignitor and rx pack/charger to get through a summer of racing.

Losi XXXNT $350
rx pack $20
ignitor $20
6 cell pack for starter $20
dynamite charger for all above $40
4 gallons fuel and 4 plugs $130
total for a RTR newbie setup: $580

This does of course include a radio.... but it's not exactly what you see as a typical racer setup either.

Let's do apples to apples against the RTR XXXNT:
Losi XXXT Brushless RTR $370
8000mah lipo pack $80
Integy AC/DC 6.5A lipo charger $100
total for RTR newbie setup: $550

The 4300 on lipo will be pretty fast.... maybe not ballistic like a 5.5.. but I bet money that it could hang with the XXXNT on the track, easily........

So.... even with RTR... brushless is cheaper

I have nitro also... but I don't inhale the fumes like some....
glassdoctor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2007, 09:45 PM   #123
Tech Master
 
Nitro$junkie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Gold Coast, Australia
Posts: 1,420
Trader Rating: 7 (100%+)
Send a message via MSN to Nitro$junkie
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by glassdoctor
I have nitro also... but I don't inhale the fumes like some....
THATS THE BEST PART ABOUT NITRO RACING
__________________
Futaba
Mugen
Novarossi
Byron's
http://www.hospitalrecords.com
Nitro$junkie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2007, 01:02 AM   #124
Tech Elite
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 2,570
Trader Rating: 26 (96%+)
Default

Are you sure you've been huffing nitro fumes and not drinking simple green or something? You guys need to stop trying to compare the two classes. Bl//lipo is much cheaper and requires much less maintanance. If you like to work a second job then continue to run nitro. If you like a recreational hobby then run bl/lipo. If you guys are realy wondering about why bl/lipo is better then try to find another class that you can enjoy 20 minute mains and run three classes in the same day with ease.
party_wagon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2007, 01:41 AM   #125
Tech Master
 
Nitro$junkie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Gold Coast, Australia
Posts: 1,420
Trader Rating: 7 (100%+)
Send a message via MSN to Nitro$junkie
Default

20 min main's thats nothing hour mains is worth braging about thats right electric cant handle that
__________________
Futaba
Mugen
Novarossi
Byron's
http://www.hospitalrecords.com
Nitro$junkie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2007, 02:50 AM   #126
Tech Master
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Mt. Holly, NC
Posts: 1,181
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nitro$junkie
20 min main's thats nothing hour mains is worth braging about thats right electric cant handle that
Sorry, but I have won a 1 1/2 hour long race. Takes about equal to 1 flame out starter box shuffle of a gas truck to change a battery every 30 minutes.
__________________
Tired of high priced gasoline!

Go here to help out: http://www.americansolutions.com/
Craps is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2007, 03:54 AM   #127
Tech Rookie
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 14
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by glassdoctor
Losi XXXNT $350
rx pack $20
ignitor $20
6 cell pack for starter $20
dynamite charger for all above $40
4 gallons fuel and 4 plugs $130
total for a RTR newbie setup: $580
XXX-NT RTR version has a pull start!

And also can electric runs in wet/raining conditions?!
barnettgs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2007, 05:03 AM   #128
Tech Master
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Mt. Holly, NC
Posts: 1,181
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by barnettgs
can electric runs in wet/raining conditions?!
Why not? The rain effects nitro/electric hybrids the same way it does electric. Remember there is just as many electric motors and even more batteries required to operate a nitro as it does an electric! 2 servos with electric motors in the nitro along with a 540 size electric motor in that starter box that is probably faster than the gas motor that is in the nitro truck!

I am not going to run none of my gas or electric RCs in the rain!!!!
__________________
Tired of high priced gasoline!

Go here to help out: http://www.americansolutions.com/
Craps is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2007, 06:27 AM   #129
Tech Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Melbourne, FL
Posts: 787
Trader Rating: 2 (100%+)
Send a message via AIM to kreidel
Default

I heard that next season NHRA is mandating BL/LIPO. THey say this is because people only come to see the cars run down the strip, not to feel the engines vibrating your bones or watching the fire shoot out the headers.
kreidel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2007, 09:21 AM   #130
Tech Rookie
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 14
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Craps
Why not? The rain effects nitro/electric hybrids the same way it does electric.
With Nitro kit, I can put receiver and receiver battery box inside balloons for water-proofing. Servo is fine as its electronic is inside sealed box. Nitro motor is not a problem and can cope with raining providing its air filter has good cover.

But on electric, you can't put ESC in balloon as it runs hot! Electric motor is not sealed either, it's well exposed to water.
barnettgs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2007, 09:25 AM   #131
Tech Rookie
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 14
Default

Also electronic technology regarding on brushless motor and ESC is developing all the time, still have not matured so you may have to fork out for newest technology. It can be a little unfair if your rivals have better and latest $$$ electronics etc.

Unlike nitro engines which has changed little over the years!
barnettgs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2007, 10:03 AM   #132
Tech Regular
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: NW Arkansas
Posts: 403
Trader Rating: 3 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kreidel
I heard that next season NHRA is mandating BL/LIPO. THey say this is because people only come to see the cars run down the strip, not to feel the engines vibrating your bones or watching the fire shoot out the headers.
Yeah, I get the exact same sensations from a .21 nitro engine.

Now if the toy nitro engines could fireball like the NHRA guys..........that would be freakin' cool!!
__________________
AE FT B44.2, SC10, T4, B4.2, B4, 18T, 18R, TC4, L3.5O ** Losi MRC Pro ** CRC Carpet Knife ** Axial XR10, AX10, SCX10 ** Traxxas EMaxx ** JR Z1
Manning is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2007, 11:01 AM   #133
Tech Champion
 
R40Victim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: N.W. FL___L.A.___Lower Alabama
Posts: 7,823
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default

I can't believe I let myslef be drawn into this pissing match.

Quote:
But on electric, you can't put ESC in balloon as it runs hot! Electric motor is not sealed either, it's well exposed to water.
Wrong, there are water resistant ESCs designed for boats, and can easily handle a little mud. Most brushless motors are SEALED. Water would pose the same risks to a good brushless system as it would with nitro. I race both, I know.

Either one is good for it's intended purpose, which is why there's an entire INDUSTRY built around both. Pick your poinson and go play!
R40Victim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2007, 11:07 AM   #134
Tech Lord
 
UN4RACING's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: MODIFIED!
Posts: 13,140
Trader Rating: 22 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by glassdoctor
Dude... are you even trying to pay attention? Try reading some of the thread before responding. To answer your post quoted here:

YES... one battery can be raced all day, without taking it out of the truck. (8000mah lipo pack)*

NO... you don't need the latest packs (again.. talking lipo here...)

BRUSHES????? Come on... what part of "brushless" do you not get?

Must be some serious sniffage of the nitro fumes for you dude....

To make really clear:
1 battery + 1 esc/motor combo = race every week all summer if you like.

*A 5 minute qualifier only uses about 2500mah or less of the battery. A 8 amp charge it only takes like 15 minutes to top off the battery and be ready for the next round. You can do this all day..... and then run the same battery for 20 + minutes in the main. After that it might take an hour to recharge. And you also don't have to wait for the battery to cool or anything before charging. Just an FYI...
I got your back on that. I run 4800's bought 2 and swap every round while the other is repeaking. Voltage ain't nothing if your into horse power. Running mod run time is the key. Sounds nuts but one motor all season is possible same as the 8000.

Last edited by UN4RACING; 08-21-2008 at 08:03 AM.
UN4RACING is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2007, 11:12 AM   #135
Tech Lord
 
UN4RACING's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: MODIFIED!
Posts: 13,140
Trader Rating: 22 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nitro$junkie
20 min main's thats nothing hour mains is worth braging about thats right electric cant handle that
It would be a cool race.
3 packs 3 pits, Vs. 8 to 10 pits nitro. Hmmmmmmmmm.?
UN4RACING is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
LOOKING TO BUY RC NITRO TRUCKS, CARS, BUGGYS, ELECTRIC OR NITRO CASH IN HAND jd267 R/C Items: Wanted to Buy 26 09-06-2008 12:25 PM
Nitro Vs Electric stoptherockets3 Electric On-Road 2 01-23-2008 06:01 AM
ct rc nitro or electric jombo Nitro Off-Road 2 01-14-2008 08:23 AM
WTTF: mini electric or nitro (nitro perfered) and also looking at all nitro deals.... xxx-ntad2 racer R/C Items: Wanted to Buy 3 04-25-2007 07:53 PM



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. It is currently 10:39 PM.


We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net