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Old 02-18-2007, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by party_wagon
The retail of the zx-5 is $500. I would expect to see this car hit the market for under $220.
I couldn't find Kyosho's MSRP for it, so I just based my assumption off of speedtechrc's price. So if retail is $329 then the price for this car will be quite competitive with the AE and Losi.
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Originally Posted by WheelNut
I couldn't find Kyosho's MSRP for it, so I just based my assumption off of speedtechrc's price. So if retail is $329 then the price for this car will be quite competitive with the AE and Losi.
But the AE & Losi car comes with full graphite, titanium turn buckles, cvd's etc.

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the car is carbod fiber compsite just like the other two. also it does cvd's can see it in the pics. the hinge pins and turnbuckles was not metioned on those. from the pics the turnbubkles could be like the FT AE that are anodized black, but could be steel as well, doesn't say in the literature. someone on the previous page or earlier in this thread posted the write up of the car and specs of it, but it is also on the home page of Xtreme rc cars magazine.
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the losi and AE are carbon compisite as well they just different verbage to say the samething.
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Originally Posted by WheelNut
I couldn't find Kyosho's MSRP for it, so I just based my assumption off of speedtechrc's price. So if retail is $329 then the price for this car will be quite competitive with the AE and Losi.
I posted the offical MSRP a few pages back.



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Arrival will be April/May.

Retail is $329.99, you may find these priced at hobby shops around $263.99, but as usual price will be different from shop to shop.
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Kyosho Ultima RB5 Competition 2WD EP Buggy



Feb. 14, 2007 - Kyosho announces the new Ultima RB5 electric racing buggy. It's a virtually all-new design that is the result of years of R&D and includes the collective experience of the world's most experienced RC racing drivers and engineers from the world's most experienced RC racing company. The main goal of the new Ultima RB5 is simple - to win the next IFMAR World Championship.



The new Ultima RB5 only shares rear hubs with the Lazer ZX-5 and a few common hardware items, but the essential and distinguishing components of the car, such as the chassis, transmission, bulkheads, shock towers, suspension and the sleek aerodynamic body, are all new. Each aspect of the car is specially designed and tested to produce maximum performance. Likewise, the materials chosen for this new Ultima are exhaustively tested - all with the goal to create the ultimate no-nonsense competition car that's ready to take on the world.



Chassis - The chassis plate is light and strong, featuring a specially formulated carbon fiber composite for the best balance of performance and durability. Strategic braces molded into the chassis enhance the stiffness without adding any unnecessary weight. Separate front and rear "clips" allow fast and easy removal of the front or rear end of the car, which makes maintenance and repair much easier. Designed to accept stick packs and racing-style 6-cell matched packs, the RB5 chassis features an adjustable battery mounting position that allows you to shift weight bias to suit track conditions and your driving style.



Transmission - The new transmission features a smaller, more compact housing that keeps the motor as low and close to the transmission as possible, which reduces CG and improves bump handing. The three-gear transmission features an internal ball differential that uses standard 3/32-inch diff balls and 1/16-inch thrust balls. The differential is also externally adjustable, and a dust cover fits over the adjustment holes so the thrust bearing lasts much longer. An injection molded gear cover is included, which better fits the motor plate to minimize dust and debris for longer gear life.



Rear Suspension - The rear suspension arms are symmetrical so a single replacement arm can be used on either side of the car, saving money and space inside your pit box because you don't need to carry as many replacement parts. The inside of the arms are attached to the chassis using separate suspension mounts, which will allows anti-squat adjustment. The rear wheel hubs feature three lower hinge-pin holes, which allow modification of the ride height with minimal disturbance of the suspension geometry. Vertical ball studs for the both the inner and out rod ends of the upper link mean the rear suspension geometry can be fine-tuned with shims.



Front Suspension - Longer, straighter and symmetrical suspension arms connect to a narrow front bulkhead. The bumper/skid plate, suspension block, nose plate and front bulkhead all come together to form a very rigid assembly, to which the front suspension arms mount. The standard position of the suspension mount produces 25 degrees of hinge pin angle in the front suspension arms, but simply flipping the suspension mount increases the hinge pin angle to 30 degrees. The added flexibility of having adjustable hinge pin angles means you have more options when it comes to setting up your car. Like the rear arms, a single replacement arm can be used on either side of the car.



Offset steering hubs make high-speed handling a dream, while floating axles ride in bearings that are mounted in the hub instead of the wheel This moves the weight of the bearings inboard for more responsive suspension, the bearings are under less stress, and they're better shielded from the elements. This means the front wheel bearings last longer and run smoother. The front track width is also easily adjusted, which means the amount of steering response is easily increased or decreased for track conditions and driver preference.



Steering Assembly - Ball bearings provide smooth movement of the steering bellcranks, which are mounted on the chassis at the same angle as the suspension arms. This eliminates bump steer and produces more accurate Ackerman geometry throughout the entire range of steering motion. The steering plate (center link) features horizontally mounted ball studs, which mean Ackerman can be fine tuned using shims behind the ball studs, offering a nearing infinite range of adjustment.



Captured Hinge Pins - A simple button head screw captures all the outer hinge pins of the Ultima RB5. The rear inner hinge pins are truly captured between the suspension mounts, and the notched inner front pins are secured with a setscrew through the front suspension mount. This means that the hinge pins are much more secure and less likely to come loose.



Low-Profile Shock Towers - The front shock tower is mounted as far back on the chassis as possibly, as are the shocks, to keep the mass as low as possible. Likewise, the rear shock tower is also designed to keep a low profile, yet allow enough suspension travel to ensure the best possible handling. The shock towers are molded from an exhaustively tested composite, which is much more costly to produce than shock towers made from woven graphite, but will also provide greater durability.



Threaded Aluminum "Triple" Shocks - Kyosho is well known for silky smooth shocks and the new "Triple" shocks included with the Ultima RB5 are no exception. The shock body consists of three major components - a top cap, threaded body, and a lower cap. The aluminum shock bodies feature a threaded spring pre-load collar for quick and easy adjustment. The threaded adjuster features an O-ring that prevents the preload settings from moving, which ensures consistent performance from start to finish. The lower shock cap allows quick and easy maintenance of the double O-ring seals.



Low-Profile Body - no less than ten versions of the new body for the RB5 were thoroughly tested to maximize performance and to ensure that you have the best-looking car on the track. The entire R&D team as well as the factory drivers were involved in the development, and the finished product is the best-performing body ever used on a 2WD buggy according to the team.



SPECIFICATIONS:

Category: 1:10 competition 2WD electric buggy

Wheelbase: 10.63 in. (270mm)

Track width: 9.84 in. (250mm)

Weight: 57.2 oz. (1620g)

Chassis: Molded carbon composite

Transmission: Compact 3-gear

Differential: Externally adjustable ball-type

Transmission ratio: 2.6:1

Slipper: Double-disc, spring-loaded

Bearings: Teflon-sealed (transmission); metal shielded

Suspension: Lower H-arm w/steel turnbuckles

Shocks: 3-piece threaded aluminum, oil-damped

Driveshafts: Steel CV-type

Gears: 48-pitch

30074B - Ultima RB5 Competition 2WD EP Buggy






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Originally Posted by Tim Johnson
I posted the offical MSRP a few pages back.
Sorry I meant the MSRP for the Lazer ZX-5, so I could compare the MSRP's of the ZX-5 adn the RB-5.
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Most people are buying the plastic B4 and Losi buggies anyways and then just putting titanium turnbuckles, cvds, and threaded shocks on them. The only thing the RB doesn't have is the titanium turnbuckles. And those are easily replaced at the track when they bend. If it is in the $250 or lower range I will be buying one.
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Originally Posted by WheelNut
Sorry I meant the MSRP for the Lazer ZX-5, so I could compare the MSRP's of the ZX-5 adn the RB-5.
oh, the Lazer is $500 retail, $389.99 street, plus or minus depening on the hobby shop.
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how different are the shock to the zx-5?
could you share springs and rebuild kits or are they 2 different?
just looking at sharing parts
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are rims for the 4wd the same as the 2wd?
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The shocks have the same bodies and caps but the seal assembly is different, however the O-rings are the same size.

Rear rims are the same, since the front wheel use a hex too I suppose you could use the 4wd fronts too if you wanted a wide tyre.
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Will Losi wheels fit on the front?
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Losi hex? Doubt it, I imagine Kyosho will be using their normal 12mm hex.
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Originally Posted by Scrad
Most people are buying the plastic B4 and Losi buggies anyways and then just putting titanium turnbuckles, cvds, and threaded shocks on them. The only thing the RB doesn't have is the titanium turnbuckles. And those are easily replaced at the track when they bend. If it is in the $250 or lower range I will be buying one.
yep i buy the FT kits and a rtr chassis at the same time. cause i like the threaded shock bodies,graphite towers and arms, and the turnbuckles. the chassis is only like 24.99.
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I will get one!
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