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Old 11-13-2006, 10:48 AM   #31
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that doens't just affect electric racers, lots of nitro guys are running lipo receiver packs in their cars,
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Old 11-13-2006, 01:21 PM   #32
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I don't recall ever seeing anybodies receiver or transmitter pack teched at a race, I doubt I ever will.

Here is the list of ROAR affiliates that support ROAR, of this list, Orion is the only one (I recognize) that sells Lipo (and they still sell Nimh). So take all your bitching and moaning to your favorite Lipo distributor and tell them to join ROAR so that they will be considered just like the 10 or so Nimh dealers on this list.

Associated Electrics
3585 Cadillac Ave.
Costa Mesa, CA 92626
www.rc10.com

Axiom Racing Motors
3148 NE 115th Ave.
Vancouver, WA 98682
www.axiommotors.com

Byron Originals, Inc.
PO Box 279
Ida Grove, IA 51445
www.byronfuels.com

Fusion Batteries LLC
1440 Coral Ridge Dr. # 356
Coral Springs, 33071
www.fusionbatteries.com

Hacker Brushless USA
2122 W. 5th Place
Tempe, AZ 85281
www.hackerbrushless.com

Hi-Torque's RC CAR Magazine
25233 Anza Dr.
Valencia, 91355
www.RC-CAR.com

Hobbies 'N Stuff
2801-P Eubank NE
Albuquerque, NM 87112
www.hobbies-n-stuff.com

Kyosho Corporation of America
20322 Valencia Circle
Lake Forest, 92630
www.kyoshoamerica.com

Lunsford Industries, Inc.
2500 Three Lakes Rd. # A
Albany, OR 97321
www.lunsfordracing.com

Molzer Mowery Racing
6528 Winsdale St.
Golden Valley, MN 55427
www.molzermoweryracing.com/

Mugen Racing
20525 Crescent Bay Dr.
Lake Forest, 92630
www.mugenracing.com

Novak Electronics, Inc.
17032 Armstrong Ave.
Irvine, CA 92614
www.teamnovak.com

Parma International, Inc.
13927 Progress Pkwy
N. Royalton, OH 44133
www.parmapse.com

Peak Performance
22601 La Palma # 104
Yorba Linda, CA 92887
www.peakmotors.com

Performance R/C
303 Jackson Ave.
Sandston, 23150
www.performancerc.sytes.net

Pro - Line
PO Box 456
Beaumont, CA 92223
www.prolineracing.com
RC-RESOURCES
5189 Cloverlawn Dr.
Grants Pass, 97527
www.rc-resources.com/

Robinson Racing Products
4968 Meadow View Drive
Mariposa, CA 95336
www.robinsonracing.com

Schumacher, Inc.
6302 Benjamin Rd. # 404
Tampa, FL 33634
www.racing-cars.com

Serpent USA, Inc.
2830 NW 79 Ave.
Miami, FL 33122
www.mytsn.com

Speedline / Racer's Choice
9212 Gallant Fox
Austin, TX 78737
www.speedline-rc.com

Superior Matching Concepts
600 Shenandoah Ave.
Elkton, 22827
www.SMC-Racing.com

Team Losi
4710 E. Gausti Road
Ontario, CA 91761
www.teamlosi.com

Team Orion
22601 La Palma # 103
Yorba Linda, CA 92887
www.team-orion.com

Tekin, Inc.
PO Box 2189
McCall, ID 83638
www.teamtekin.com

Trinity Products Inc.
36 Meridian Road
Edison, 08820
www.teamtrinity.com

Vantage Racing Inc.
11020 Fineview St.
South El Monte, CA 91733
www.vantageracing.com

W.S. Deans Co.
10875 Portal Drive
Los Alamitos, CA 90720
www.wsdeans.com

Werks Racing
1702 - H Meridian Ave. # 152
San Jose, 95130
www.werksracing.com

Windtunnel Racing Products
1504 320th St.
Sloan, 51055
members.fbx.com/~rmurdock/windtunnel

Xtreme RC Cars Magazine
2000 S. Grove Bldg. A # 111
Ontario, 91761
www.RC411.com

Yokomo USA, Inc.
17951 Skypark Cir. # K
Irvine, CA 92614
www.yokomousa.com
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Old 11-13-2006, 01:39 PM   #33
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Put up a poll on the ROAR Website.
Good luck with that. It appears those in charge have little confidence in our ability to decide things for ourselves.

Here's an idea: Stop going to ROAR races.

How many per year does that leave out? Not too many nowadays.
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Old 11-13-2006, 01:51 PM   #34
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there was never a reason to tech receiver packs, but if lipo's are banned, they would have to be teched, otherwise it defeats the purpose of their being rules, or roar in general,
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Old 11-13-2006, 03:35 PM   #35
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well one less thing i dont have to worry about since i am still and plan to still be a nimh kind of guy... i am sure lipo's will get me one day, but since i am not now. no worries here.
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Old 11-13-2006, 03:52 PM   #36
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Whats sad is the ban is a blanket lipo ban. This means the new A123 cells which dont catch on fire and have a 70amp to 100amp discharge rate will be banned as well/ They are also cheap, at around 9 bucks a cell and you only need 3. Can be charged in 15 minutes and hold voltage under load.

Alot of 30-60 size eheli guys have switched to them and they are great. If you over charge there is somethin inside that pops and kills the cell and it wont accept any more charge.

They also have weight to them, I think they are 60 grams per cell, so people wont have to worry as much about adding weight to the car to get back to proper weight.

These are he cells of the future, not the prismatic lipos that can and will burn you down if not watched. I even think with these cells,electric 1/8th is very possible and still be able to run 60 min main.
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Whats sad is the ban is a blanket lipo ban. This means the new A123 cells which dont catch on fire and have a 70amp to 100amp discharge rate will be banned as well/ They are also cheap, at around 9 bucks a cell and you only need 3. Can be charged in 15 minutes and hold voltage under load.

Alot of 30-60 size eheli guys have switched to them and they are great. If you over charge there is somethin inside that pops and kills the cell and it wont accept any more charge.

They also have weight to them, I think they are 60 grams per cell, so people wont have to worry as much about adding weight to the car to get back to proper weight.

These are he cells of the future, not the prismatic lipos that can and will burn you down if not watched. I even think with these cells,electric 1/8th is very possible and still be able to run 60 min main.
The A123 cells are lithium-ion, not lithium-polymer. Hey, it's a technicality.
http://www.a123racing.com/
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Old 11-13-2006, 04:02 PM   #38
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So will they be legal?
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Old 11-13-2006, 05:08 PM   #39
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i personally thinkg that the big battery manf. such as gp and intellect.. have some sort of monetary influence..

i have a feeling that they are paying roar off. to get rid of lipos. i bet any money if gp or intellect were in lipo. it would be a standard right about now.

now if they adopted lipo. how many would be interested in it. about 90 percent of people. would make the switch from nimh.

now if that happened gp and intellect would be dead.

the only ones buying standard cells would be new people. but would eventually make the swap after they see how cost effective lipo is.

i race club. and until they outlaw lipo i will continue to run my pack. yes i said it right..PACK>> one .. not six

roars stomach needs to be clear so they can see where they are walking. yes their heads are that far up their ass . matter a fact im suprised they didnt flip inside out.
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11/12/06 LiPo battery decision clarified.

For 2007 Lithium Polymer batteries are not permitted to compete with
NiCad or NiMh batteries in electric class racing because the voltages
are not equivalent nor do the pack dimensions match those currently
observed by ROAR and IFMAR. This rule does not currently affect
receiver packs at this time, however ROAR is concerned with the overall
safety of these cells when located near or around flammable/combustible
materials. ROAR will investigate this further.

http://roarracing.com/news.php
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That's a shame. Looks as though you can't even use them for transmitter or receiver packs.
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Old 11-14-2006, 04:56 AM   #42
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Wagon did you bother to read what was just posted above you? ROAR clarified the rule to read reciever packs are OK for the time being.
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Roar is great, don't ya love their intelligent decisions?
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I thought the LiPo reciever packs were what they were having a problem with? So, all this is really saying is that ROAR does not want to deal with LiPo batteries in the electric classes? Wasn't expecting them to anytime soon.
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I gotta say with roar banning lipos in electric cars only. and all these wonderful people Bitching and moaning(as some would say, voicing their opinion) how many actually go to roar events OR even run in series or championship races that follow roar rules????

most people that race, and have lipos generally are doing club level anyways.

I dont understand the big deal... still use your lipo radio and receiver for nitro.
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