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Old 10-15-2006, 09:13 PM   #1
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Cool Pipes and Headers.......

I have gone to a 5 port Nova based motor. What pipe and header to make the most power and to make the best fuel efficiency.

I'm running a Works Conical header as well.
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This should be an on going thread for us 1/8th guys.
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Old 10-15-2006, 09:31 PM   #2
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THe werks header is known to add bottom end and midrange at the cost of a little fuel milage. I have been hearing if guys having good results with the 053 pipe even though it has not been a popular choice lately. Can't go wrong with a JP-2. Plenty of power and you can always use it as a hammer if needed.
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I have a P5X and have tried a few pipes and have stayed with the JP2. Nice mix of power & fuel economy. Yes there are pipes with a tad more power but my lap times are faster with the JP2!
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What about the OS pipes or the standard .086, .053 and .063s?
Short or long headers?
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OS 2050 gives great milage but I have heard some say that it neuters the top end of a P5. The 086 runs great on a P5 (always have) but they are delicate which is why most went to the JP-2. The Mugen 1005 pipe was tested to produce significantly more power than any other on a P5 in RC Xtreme magazine's pipe comparison article though. I would imagine it burns the most fuel though.
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LMAO

"OS 2050 gives great milage but I have heard some say that it neuters the top end of a P5."

Neuters, that's a good way to put it and very true, I didn't like it at all. I tried the Nova 086 and it was good also but it sucked fuel for me.

Also for me the performance gains from other pipes are not good enough for me to give up the durability of the JP1&2 pipes. When I feel the need to start looking for tenths of a second on the track I will look for better performers.
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Oh......and Tex when I did run the Nova 086 I did run the short header.
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Old 10-18-2006, 07:08 AM   #8
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It is not about looking for great lap times as much as looking for an advantage as a whole.
I'll take loosing a 7 second fuel stop to a couple of tenths a lap everytime. In offroad one rut can cost you everything you gain in power tuning. The lost fuel stop is the same no matter what.
How long of a straight are you guys running on to see a 2050 clip the top of a P5 motor?

A couple of weeks ago, a guy bent his header on his JP-2. I loaned him a short header (it was all I had) to finish the night and it blew his mind. All he could do was comment on how much easier the car was to drive. He was running a P5 as well. Anyone else try this?

I think I might try the JP-2. Anyone have information on the JP-3?

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i have a 2050 in a Mugen with a Medial Pro M2K (5 port)...it pretty much smoothes out the ENTIRE power of the engine...which is to say that the extremely hard hitting low end isn't gone but its toned down. The top is muted but the midrange is where its best. Snappy and strong pulling. I had an 086 prior to this and it was stronger everywhere except the midrange....i was running a short header on both.
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086 pipes have always wroked best on Nova based motors. Great spread of power everywhere. If your worried about how fragile they are buy the cheap Ofna one.

If you run an OS motor OS pipes are the only way to go. The 2050 has a bit more punch and midrange where the new 3 chamber 2060 smooths out the entire powerband while it sacrifices a little bottom end. Oh and I'll take the 8 1/2 minutes of run time I get out of my V-spec T-2050 combo anyday over 5 to 6 minute Nova motors
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I have the P5X, put the JP3 pipe on, It seems to me that it has the same low end power as the JP1 and the same top end as the JP2, but the JP3 seems to get better mileage than both of them. I also have tried the 2050 and the 086 and the JP3 is hands down my favorite.
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Very interesting. Maybe the JP-3 will be what I try next. Anyone here techy enough to discuss conical headers. How and or why do people claim they make soo much power?
It is all the rage in on-road.
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That would be a good question for Ron Hopkins at Werks. I have heard that they make better low end and midrange at the expense of a little fuel economy (extra power usually does ) but I have not heard why either.
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Well all I can say is since I got the RB 2045 I havn't looked back.
Great power from bottom to top, mid-range still has plenty of that too.
Only down side I would say is that it costs a bit more than most pipes.
I can get 8-9 minutes with it on a C6BB in my truggy, before a fuel stop.
(oh thats on a race tune) Practice and warm-up runs its about 7-8minutes.

Just another choice for great power.
Oh the JP3 is a three chamber rather than its two chambered cuisons..
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I love how RB pipes run. The only problem is the "GA$$HOLE" next to you that decides he does not like your stinger. Bammo! That pipe has to go back to the shop.


Need to get the Works guy on here to tell us how these headers work.


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