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Old 07-28-2006, 08:25 PM   #16
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The bad thing with the Mugen is they change stuff and don't tell anyone. At least Kyosho lets you know they are changing things.
Hey Matt- Surely you can find a Kyosho thread on here somewhere to post in!! Just pick one-the 777 thread, SP1 thread, SP2 thread, SP3 thread, etc etc etc.............
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Old 07-29-2006, 08:57 AM   #17
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Old 07-30-2006, 06:31 AM   #18
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Are there part numbers for the new changes yet?
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Old 07-30-2006, 08:26 AM   #19
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Here are some of the MBX5T part numbers (new & old):

C0167A 2.1mm Front Roll Bar
C0171 2.3mm Front Roll Bar
E0131 2.4mm Front Roll Bar
E0127 2.5mm Front Roll Bar
E0128 2.7mm Front Roll Bar (Standard on X5T)

C0183 2.6mm Rear Roll Bar
C0184 2.8mm Rear Roll Bar
E0130 2.9mm Rear Roll Bar
E0129 3.0mm Rear Roll Bar (Standard on X5T)

*new* E0312 X5T Servo Saver Arm
*new* E0314 X5T Servo Saver pipe
*new* E0315 X5T Servo Saver Spring
C0356 Servo Saver Shaft - same as old

*new* E0513 X5T Front Shock Set
*new* E0514 X5T Rear Shock Set

*new* E0524 X5T Red Front Spring
*new* E0525 X5T Red Rear Spring
note: I think they have longer gray springs coming for the buggy. The reds may be too stiff for the car. Not sure what the part number is for the buggy shock towers.

*new* E0815 X5T 150cc Fuel Tank (will not fit in buggy)

*new* E1005 X5T 5-spoke MT wheel (4 pcs) - white
*new* E1006 X5T 5-spoke MT wheel (4 pcs) - yellow
*new* E1007 X5T narrow wing - white
*new* E1008 X5T narrow wing - yellow
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Old 07-30-2006, 12:32 PM   #20
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so when and were can I purchase a mbx5r
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I completely agree with ya Key. But some folks don't see it that way, so I was just pointing out that Mugen has had just as many changes on their car but it's still called MBX5 ...LOL
The same goes with the inferno. They had equally undergone changes but it's still called an MP777.

Not quiet sure where ur heading with this
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what they are getting at is I remember back in feb of 04 the kanai 3 was released. I remember I was one of the first in my area to have a kanai 3, I was stoked to have the best buggy out. But it wasnt 3 months later I heard rumors of a new kyosho buggy. And sure enough I think in september right after the worlds in 04 heres the 777. I guess what it boils down to if you drop about 700.00 on the latest and greatest you expect that it will be out for at least a year before a new product is out. Im not knocking kyosho, I still drive a kanai 2 they make awesome stuff. Right now Im depating on getting a new buggy, its between the sp2 and the new mbx5r. Im leaning more to the mugen becasuse I know it probaly wont be replaced for a couple of years. I myself really cant afford to buy a new buggy every 6 months to a year. Not trying to start a argument just my opinion
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I'm not heading anywhere ...lol

But in the time since the MBX5 was released, Kyosho went from K2 to K3 to MP777 SP1 to MP777 SP2. All four cars are certainly different cars.

But my point was that if you built a Mugen back in 2004 and built one now, the changes they've made are quite noticable. Many guys that first tried the Mugen didn't like it because they said it lacked steering. But with the new arms and front uprights (plus some better factory driver setups to start with) the car can steer on a dime.
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..sure

Prior to the MBX5 release was the Kanai. Kanai2 and Kanai3 pretty much belong to the same kanai group. sp1 and sp2 is another. Both groups are much like the mbx4 and 5.

Yes, both manufacturers have had just as many changes/upgrades. The only difference is with kyosho they're all infernos.
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Barnes I don't have much use for the Kyosho thread as I switched to the Jammin'.

I had one of those first Mugen kits and even worn out it was more consistent on the track than the new Mugen kit I bought in winter of 2005.
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Thanks Tony. For your screws and the MBX-5R info
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I disagree. I think a new chassis means it's a new car. Kyosho keeps doing that, Mugen doesn't.
I don't see them as having new chassis'. Sure, they have the components mounted in slightly different places but if you put all 4 revisions of the K-car on a table and asked a non K-car driver to identify them it would be difficult. I would consider the K2 and 777 SP-2 to be different enough to be called different cars (they certainly run differently) but they are nowhere close to being as different as the MBX-4 series of cars and the MBX-5. Would you agree?
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