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Old 05-24-2006, 05:46 PM   #31
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you generally get what you pay for.......

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Old 05-24-2006, 07:24 PM   #32
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TONS of info on the X5 can be found at www.4wdrc.com If you look hard enough through the forums, you can find some good comparison info on the X5 to other buggies. Also, there is some threads on fitting a brushless motor and esc in the chassis, I know people have had success.

www.the-pred.co.uk has info on the X10 and past predators

www.rc10b4.com has a BJ4 forum

www.oople.com/forums has some good info

X5 review- http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/reviewx5/index.html

XX4 review- http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/reviewxx4/
RC Driver recently reviewed it a few months ago

X10 review- http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/reviewx10/index.html
RC Driver reviewed it in their current issue, RCCA reviewed it 3-5 months ago

MR4BX review- http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/reviewbx/index.html

ZX5 review- http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/zx5/
RCCA reviewed it 2-4 months ago

Hope this helps, I own none of these, but I do race in 4wd with a homemade car.
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AS mentioned earlyer....Part's availability is the biggest part...you'd prob. be better off with the BJ4,ZX5,X-5..... Like I listed before I prefer my BJ4 and X10 ..... but the new Yok. is worth a look too... might be my next buy... Never really had any durability prob. with any ...no more then the usual things. but those are just my preferance.... I really like the ZX5 but I have enough right now so I'm selling it.... The X-5 is what I've heard a hot car ...but I'm just not into the Battery layout....but thats just me... All in all I don't think you can go wrong with any....mainly just see what you're LHS has/stock's or can easly get if you don't want to order the parts yourself..... Just my .02
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Old 05-25-2006, 12:07 AM   #34
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I have raced a XXX-4 and currently race a ZX-5. The ZX-5 handles very well and is easy to setup and work on. There are a few parts which need to be replaced to make it durable enough race with confidence. There is enough aftermarket stuff (aluminum and CF) to make it pretty bullet-proof. It gets my vote, but I have no experience with the BJ-4.

I race against XXX-4's, X-5's, XX-4's, and an SB-Pro, mainly on large outdoor tracks. The XX4 and X-5 share front suspension, so they both seem to have trouble finishing races without snapping a front arm. Also, some of the X-5 drivers have trouble getting their belts to not skip under accelleration. When they do finish, they are hard to beat. The XXX-4 is probably the most durable of the bunch, though I haven't seen the SB-Pro have many DNF's due to breaking. The trick with the XXX-4 is to not double up the shock towers. Lots of people do, but then they run the risk of breaking the chassis.
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I would recomend the MRC SB pro carbon Ive been driving it for almost a year and its a great car. As for the new second version I would wait for the carbon version. Im running it with a 11t cobalt and its very controlable at speed. Durability wise Ive only had one problem I broke the shock piston and diff outrive but that was only because I hit a tree at top speed. Price wise you get alot more than you pay for with it. Parts availability is excilent not many shops cary parts but you order direct from them and it only takes about two days for shipping

If you go here you can find out alot about the car and theres a few guys that are regulars at So-cal I think

http://www.rc10b4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2601
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I would recomend the MRC SB pro carbon Ive been driving it for almost a year and its a great car. As for the new second version I would wait for the carbon version. Im running it with a 11t cobalt and its very controlable at speed. Durability wise Ive only had one problem I broke the shock piston and diff outrive but that was only because I hit a tree at top speed. Price wise you get alot more than you pay for with it. Parts availability is excilent not many shops cary parts but you order direct from them and it only takes about two days for shipping

If you go here you can find out alot about the car and theres a few guys that are regulars at So-cal I think

http://www.rc10b4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2601

I've only seen one run once at SoCal, and that was another one of my buddies... I haven't had the chance to drive it...

Just curious, but have you ever raced your SB?
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Yeah , but Im on the other side of the country. I dont get to race that often because I work 7 days a week but I do take some time off to race
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I have the ZX-5. I had a XX-4 WE. I sold it, wanted a new car so I bought the ZX-5. The ZX-5 out of the box ($300) is fragile. I upgraded to the aluminum shock tower mounts and front arm holder(rckenon.com $80 total), and Carbon Works chassis, top deck, battery strap and shock towers ($130). The car is now extremly tough and hooked up. I highly recommend this car. They are all competetive and tough after spending about $500. Good luck.

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Old 05-25-2006, 02:10 PM   #39
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well an easy answer is this
bj4we-world champion, roar stock champion
yok-worlds a-main
xx4-worlds a-main and former world champion
x-5-roar mod champion
xxx4-former world champion
zx-5-worlds b-main (very fast at the cactus with mark behind the wheel btw)
sb-pro-???????????
with the first 6 cars you really can't wrong the sb can be fairly competitive but needs a lot of work
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I think I'm going to save up and get a BJ4.

There seem to be an immense amount of pluses to the car, and one, or even no, negatives. Only negative I hear is the arms break, but they have new arms out now, and I could also get aluminum arms if needed. Also that traction roll thing, but I spent years driving 4wd nitro onroad, that's all those things (or atleast the car I owned) know how to do is roll, so I'm used to it. Otherwise, it sounds as if the car is perfect right out of the box.

Take a look at this BJ4 with a Novak brushless. That's just pure beauty in simplicity.
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Old 05-25-2006, 03:42 PM   #41
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Some would say that the initial cost of a BJ4 is a large negative.
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Umm, not really. The BJ4 worlds is 475. The Yok is 630. The Pred is 580. The x-5 is 500. The only one that is cheaper is the zx-5 at 350. Most everyone that seriously races agrees that the XXX-4, XX-4, an SB aren't really even options.

Personally, I'd rather pay the extra 125 and get a carbon fibre and aluminum vehicle from an american company instead of a plastic one from asia.

That leaves the BJ4, in my views atleast.

If Xfactory lowered it's price by 100, then I'd get one, but right now it appears the BJ4 is a better vehicle for a lower price. Xfactory is charging full retail for the Losi parts in their kit.
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Personally, I'd rather pay the extra 125 and get a carbon fibre and aluminum vehicle from an american company instead of a plastic one from asia.
thats why god invented jason and brad who invented the BJ4
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Umm, not really. The BJ4 worlds is 475. The Yok is 630. The Pred is 580. The x-5 is 500. The only one that is cheaper is the zx-5 at 350. Most everyone that seriously races agrees that the XXX-4, XX-4, an SB aren't really even options.

Personally, I'd rather pay the extra 125 and get a carbon fibre and aluminum vehicle from an american company instead of a plastic one from asia.

That leaves the BJ4, in my views atleast.

If Xfactory lowered it's price by 100, then I'd get one, but right now it appears the BJ4 is a better vehicle for a lower price. Xfactory is charging full retail for the Losi parts in their kit.

The Yokomo is $532
The X10 is $620
The ZX5 is $275
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Where can a zx-5 be purchased for 275? And a yokomo for 532?

X10, not 620. 572 TtechAmerica

Nonetheless, they are all still over 500 except the zx-5 which is plastic, probably heavier, and more fragile than the BJ4...
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