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Old 05-14-2006, 03:50 PM   #1
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I bought one this weekend and decided it SUCKED. Any other opinions out there?
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I've run them in the past....but then decided that AXIOM motors was a better company and ran their motors instead!

but other than sarcasm...what's wrong with the motor....why did it "suck?"
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BettleBailey-Birdman tries to put out a nice product.
Let's start here.
Do you know which trinity it's tuned off of?
If Not What color is the can of the motor?

What are you running the motor in?
What are you gearing it?
Have you tried more than 1 pinion?If so which one's?


If you think its Geared right and so on I would simply KEEP the motor,Have the motor cut and install Reedy 767's.
When I find out what Motor it is I can supply you with what color springs to run on it as well.
This is by FAR my favorite offroad brush.
Like I said he does focus on releasing great products being I know him personally but something COULD have happened.

Answer the above questions and we will go from there.
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TexRacer, It is the "GOOSE". The one based off the Monster. I geared it three different ways. I tried 17,16,15/86. The motor just dosent seem to have any puch at all. I thought it might work in my MF1 really well. The rack a very open sweeping track. I guess I could go ahead and cut and brush it. I think it will probably end up in one of my sons cars.
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Put Reedy 767 brushes in it and apply RED springs on both sides.
Gear it 86/17 and try it again.
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86 is the standard starting point...and I don't know how big your track is....BUT, I've had the best success with all my motors geared with an 88 spur gear...the neon yellow one. 19/88 assuming your track is big? that might also work...you'll notice a bigger difference in the acceleration of your car when you adjust the spur rather than the pinion.

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The track has about a 400ft runline. It's not tiny but not huge either.LOL I will give it another try before I buy a different motor. I had heard some good and bad about Birdman, I just thought I would give them a try myself. I'm just not very impressed. I was turning faster laps with my Core Stock than with this thing.
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Put Reedy 767 brushes in it and apply RED springs on both sides.
Gear it 86/17 and try it again.
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Kinda confused on why a Customer who bought a new Tuned Motor should have to buy new Brushes and Springs. Contact Dennis and I am sure he will take care of you.

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Old 05-15-2006, 08:54 PM   #9
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I have e-mailed the company. No response as of yet. I really don't expect one either. I really enjoy racing and toying with motors and tunig them. I just figured that if I bought a "Tuned motor" It would perform straight out of the package. I guess I was wrong. No biggie really though. This was the first time I ever ran Stock Truck. I'm used to running 19t. I did have fun and did finish third in the main.
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Well the monster goose (Monster Stock) is all RPM.So I wouldnt choose it for a truck in the first place, no matter on the gearing.You need to get ahold of his "Blue Goose" witch is the colbalt.No motor tuner can afford to spend hours on end tuning a motor till it rips itself apart.Its just not logical to put atleast 2 man hours and still pay for materials and sell it for less then 40 bucks.

Do yourself a favor and learn to tune them yourself.

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Well the monster goose (Monster Stock) is all RPM.So I wouldnt choose it for a truck in the first place, no matter on the gearing.You need to get ahold of his "Blue Goose" witch is the colbalt.No motor tuner can afford to spend hours on end tuning a motor till it rips itself apart.Its just not logical to put atleast 2 man hours and still pay for materials and sell it for less then 40 bucks.

Do yourself a favor and learn to tune them yourself.

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I guess you missed the post ahead of yours. I have plenty of practice tunning motors. My motors have set track records and points championships. I just thought a "TUNED MOTOR" should perform right out of the box. Especially since it said for truck or car on it.JMO

P.S. still no response. I guess you have to be a sponsered driver to get anything out of anyone.

P.S.S. This motor cost me ALMOST $50.

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You should go with a CO27 they rock.

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I would!! But money is tight right now. I guess I'll just have to try and mess with this and my other one. I just got informed our point series starts this weekend. It was a last minute deal.
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Get Some Reedy 767s. Cut the comm, polish the bushings,shim it correctly.

Then gear it 17/88.SHould see a whole lot of diffrence.
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Get Some Reedy 767s. Cut the comm, polish the bushings,shim it correctly.

Then gear it 17/88.SHould see a whole lot of diffrence.
Thats funny. It came with 767's and the bushings are polished. I just pulled it apart to check what I could do. I just think it was crap to begin with. I now don't trust the sheet that was with it. I'll still see what I can't do with it. But if it dosen't compare with my CORE then ohh well.JMO
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