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Old 05-08-2006, 08:06 AM   #286
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OS, you might be wrong, this buggy actually looks really good to me, the suspension geometry looks unique the more I see it. Especially when they drop the Truggy version of it, or some company makes a conversion kit.

I guess if I pick one up I'll be looking for a metric kit, which is fine because I'm sure they'll be out, or I just buy SAE wrenches. Of course its just my opinion, so yeah take it as only 1 man's opinion. I'll stop complaining or offering ideas, since to be honest the RCX one looked pretty done so I think we will see this Team Losi kit out rather quickly.

Now about coarse versus fine, tell me why when an company uses "Wood" screw style sheet metal screws people replace them with fine thread SAE or Metric equivalents. In the logic of coarse is better for soft material, wouldn't either SAE or Metric Machine screws be more prone to stripping? Coarse may allow for a deeper bite, however the reduced surface area is the problem, and the fine thread increases surface area to better hold the screw in.
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fine threads dont increase surface area...they increase threads per inch...and in harder material you get a tighter screw with less resistance...but if you think that fine threads work better...as for me im gonna keep the wood screws in the vital areas...
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fine threads dont increase surface area...they increase threads per inch...
Do you know what you are talking about? More teeth per inch = more surface area. If you have a 5-40 screw, thats 40 teeth per inch, it its a 5-48 then you have 48 teeth per inch. The more teeth means more valleys and crests of the thread, therefore more surface and cross sectional area.

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This Metric/SAE conversation is stupid. Can we please discuss things that are important about the buggy.

For instance, did anybody notice that there seems to be only one linkage from the servo to the brake? Have they found a new/better way to control front to rear bias?
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there is two brake links, one on top of the diff brace, and one under it, here is a pic that showed that clear,

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The pictures from RCX of the car that Travis seemed to be running a different arrangement with only one link going to the servo. I just looked closer and it was the same as what is posted above, his air fliter was big enough to obscure the upper link. False alarm.
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This Metric/SAE conversation is stupid. Can we please discuss things that are important about the buggy.
You might think it's stupid...I think it's stupid to have to buy a totally different set of tools and do another hardware box just to run a Losi/AE. One of the reasons I sold my XXX-4 and bought a ZX-5 is that all my HPI/Tamiya hardware and shims could be used...not the only reason, but it's a big one for me.

If you're "Losi for life", then it's not an issue...but for a lot of people, it's a $100+ dollar surcharge to add to the price of the car.
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You will need 2-3 allen sizes and maybe 2 nut drivers. That shouldn't cost $100 and take up a whole box, should it?
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I don't think it has anything to do with "Losi for life" rather an American product using standard hardware. In the USA we don't use metric as a standard. I'm sure you all knew that.
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Why the continuous raggin on this car? If you dont like it....DONT BUY IT. There is no point in hating on it if your not gonna run it. Just dont come back on here at the end of the year talking about how all the local losi's are dialed......
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sae vs metric....losi vs ae.....chevy vs ford......harley vs honda.....ginger vs maryann. who the hell cares.
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Just to clarify; I did not mean to imply anybody concerned with the SAE/Metric issue is stupid, if you are a serious enthusiast in this hobby you are probably far from stupid. I just think it is not an important aspect of the car's design.
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sae vs metric....losi vs ae.....chevy vs ford......harley vs honda.....ginger vs maryann. who the hell cares.
What the hell are we all here for???

I'm interested in the car and i asked a question...it DOES make a difference to me and there are WAY more than a couple screws on a buggy and it takes more than a couple tools.

As for the "USA uses SAE" stuff...that's nonsense. It's 50-50 at best and in the RC world it's way more metric than SAE...hell, even Losi and AE have some metric on them already.
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the thread is regarding the 8ight.......not the virtures of metric screws vs sae screws and the tools required for both......and that is what this has turned into. now, back to topic.......who's already pre-ordered an 8ight?
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Do you know what you are talking about? More teeth per inch = more surface area. If you have a 5-40 screw, thats 40 teeth per inch, it its a 5-48 then you have 48 teeth per inch. The more teeth means more valleys and crests of the thread, therefore more surface and cross sectional area.

http://www.tapmatic.com/tech_manual/coarse_fine.html
did you read your own link...it says coarse is less likely to strip in soft materials...you are retarded...and it also says what i was talking about...it is more precise in harder materials...and they are talking stronger because the untouched part is bigger...and it is only as strong as the material it is holding together...if threads pull out the strength of the screw is negated...
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