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Old 11-17-2019, 07:36 AM
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Fellow racers suck locally. Waiting on fellow racers to marshal, it's the most wasted time at the track. Some never marshal, some race every class so they don't have to marshal. The nitro guys here race 20-30-45 minute mains. But you can't get them to marshal a 10-15 minute main for the electric class.You stand on the drivers stand 5-8 minutes waiting (each class) while the announcer is begging for marshals. I see this all the time and I understand why so many people leave or quit racing forcing tracks to close.
Sorry for the rant but so far I see this hobby dying in my area. It's an hour to an hour and a half drive time now to the nearest track.
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Come race indoor offroad carpet with us in Durham. https://www.facebook.com/BullCityRacewayClub/

We dont tend to have these issues. Yes, we make a call for marshals, but it's never a problem Great group of guys. We have a lot of fun. Nobody has the "elitist" attitude. We're all there to help each other go faster!
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Old 11-17-2019, 09:33 AM
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I always marshal, volunteer for other classes and fill in for my brother. I raced a few years back. Got out and came back about a year ago but I think I'm done. I always marshal as fast as I can safely to avoid getting hit or interfering with another vehicle. Even running halfway across the track because someone is not watching their spot. I always help whenever wherever I can.

Lately I have been running a lil on road VTA class on asphalt and tennis court. That's good to hear about no issues with marshals but Durham is about 3 hours from me.
I told my bro that I really like running the trail trucks. No hassles waiting on marshals.
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You don’t Marshall, you don’t race.
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Time for the race director to have a real drivers meeting. Luckily our local racers set a good example for the newer racers and we don’t have those issues. Sure we are short on marshals if there is a low turnout due to weather or whatnot. But as a group it is up to the racers to make the program work smoothly.
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Originally Posted by Bsthetech View Post
You donít Marshall, you donít race.
All it takes is One guy to have his final finishing position or prior qualifier turned into a DNF because he did not Marshall for everyone to fall in line.

Our track offers exemptions for broken cars, where the director will find a replacement car flipper.
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Originally Posted by Bsthetech View Post
You donít Marshall, you donít race.
As a long time race director, this was enforced. Make a couple people examples and everyone stepped inline. It's when the RD doesnt do his job is when people do what they are naturally inclined to do.
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RD at 1 track told everybody in the meeting to put their car on the table provided at the gate turn around and marshal the next race. Myself and 1 other person out of 11 racers did this. Yes make an example out of a couple racers and it's solved but I assume that the RD is afraid of running off a few racers. That's ok with me as they are usually the ones that never marshal or help out.
Thank you guys for chiming in. I'm just bummed about it. I don't care if I win or lose. I just want to have fun and meet new people. Apparently off road has lost it's sportsmanship here.
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In my experience, clubs that have marshalling built into the design of the stand have less problems with this too... separate entry and exit to the stand. Exit leading past a car table and straight out to marshal. This of course along with clear and early calls from the RD when volunteers will be needed and penalties for those who repeat offend.
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i can only speak for the southern california area, but i strongly support the earlier statements about track owner/race directors setting the tome. I have been racing since the mid 90ís, and race directors that have a mandatory drivers meeting before the race to explain expectations (etiquette, timely arrival for race start, and marshaling responsibility) and then consistently enforce diring the race day (but fairly with judgement) tend to be tracks with a better and more inviting environment. These driver meetings do not seem to take place at many tracks consistently (or have directors that Ďfavorí their buddies). The tracks that do clearly and consistently state what is expected are the one i am happy to spend time at and support.
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Yes I'm all for the drivers meeting. It's hit and miss as some drivers won't come or they take all day or all night to get to the drivers meeting.Yes I've been to those tracks without a drivers meeting. It's pretty much a free for all on the track and I never went back to that track.
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This is a management issue. Make examples out of one or two that refuse and it goes away.
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Fellow racers suck locally. Waiting on fellow racers to marshal, it's the most wasted time at the track. Some never marshal, some race every class so they don't have to marshal. The nitro guys here race 20-30-45 minute mains. But you can't get them to marshal a 10-15 minute main for the electric class.You stand on the drivers stand 5-8 minutes waiting (each class) while the announcer is begging for marshals. I see this all the time and I understand why so many people leave or quit racing forcing tracks to close.
Sorry for the rant but so far I see this hobby dying in my area. It's an hour to an hour and a half drive time now to the nearest track.
thats a race director problem there. He can always tell those guys... NO MARSHALLING .... NO RACING.
Our race director at Hot Rod Hobbies Raceway in Saugus, CA is super strict about it. You don't marshall... you pack your stuff and go home..... period.
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As stated. Start docking laps or penalizing in other manners, and things will change quickly. This sounds like a failure of the race director to do his job.
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