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Old 03-10-2006, 03:11 PM   #31
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Good price as well, there is the initial cost, but you get everything to have a good, reliable, competitive car. Other cars need many things to make them good, reliable or competitive. I have seen lots of people say thy bought a zx5 because it was cheap only to see them go and spend a lot of money upgrading it.

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I don't necessarily disagree, but just to clarify IMO you don't need any upgrades to make the ZX5 very competitive on the track. There are a couple parts that can be beefed up with $40 in aluminum (in my experience the front hinge pin brace and tower mount are all that is needed to make the car durable). I hear that Kyosho has already come out with a new parts tree to address both of these spots. Even with those parts, the car is a good value.


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Old 03-10-2006, 04:54 PM   #32
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I'm looking to get into racing, but I still am a moderate basher and like to run around the yard (no jumps). I was thinking of either a xxx-4 G+, XX-4WE or the latest Academy SB V2. Price is really a factor as well as durability throughout. I will be running a mild super lightweight brushless setup, but my xxx-t couldn't take this thing unloading on it. I don't really care about maintainence, I can do all that. I've owned 3 losi's, so I'm leaning somewhat towards them, since I know the parts are good and the shocks are above par.

Currently I might have a deal working out on an X5.. but we'll see
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Old 03-10-2006, 10:09 PM   #33
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I have run a xxx-4 with a 6.5 brushless strictly for recreation (no tracks in the area). I find all the fun factors there. Handles well, takes small jumps beautifully and I can find the parts easily. Losi knows what they're doing as far as the "average hobbiest." lol.
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Old 03-11-2006, 12:38 AM   #34
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I'm an on-road guy who wanted to try my hand at off road again. In the past I've struggled with off road because I've had a problem dealing with the overall lack of grip, especially in the rear on power. I bought a XXX-4 G+ and raced it for the first time 3 weeks ago, and have run it every week since. I've escentially kept the car box stock, but I have changed the front shock position (in one hole) and front springs (to orange). I have gotten consistently faster each week I've run the car, originally turning laps from mid 23's to tonight where my best lap was a 19.3 and I had a lot of 19's tonight. I've TQed twice and won three weeks in a row with it. I'm very impressed with the car, it's durability, and how well it jumps and how forgiving it's been. I do wish the car had a little more initial turn in, but I intend on experimenting with a front one-way very soon. I've been running the car with a GTB/4300 and love it. I've wanted to experiment with a 5800, but its working so well with the 4300 I don't have the desire to. One of the guys is also running a XX-4 WE, and I love to watch his car over the whoop de do section, the thing just floats over that section. I know that he hasn't been able to get on the power like he wants because he needs to rebuild the diff and replace the rear belt, but he has given me all I could handle quite a few times. I've landed funny a number of times and the only damage I've sustained has been to the rear wing and I pulled a left front upright off the car on one bad wreck (1st week with the car). Other than that, I haven't had to turn a wrench on it. Just my .02
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Old 03-14-2006, 03:44 PM   #35
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Paul did a pretty good job summing up all the vehicles. The SB has done well at some racing events, and if I remember correctly placed 8th at the stock nationals. MRC / Academy is working on rebuilding its team and hopefully will do better this year.

Main thing however is how you like the vehicle. What kinwald can do with it doesn't really help you much if it has issues that appear when you drive it.

The SB V2 will be out at the end of the month. Price will be $250 retail, but should be less at a LHS or online through ultimate hobbies. Not sure how they will price it however, the original sport went for $145 shipped but was retailed at $199 . The Pro retailed for $250 and sold for $229 at ultimate. So figure between a $20 - $50 difference.

For durability, if the V2 takes after the V1, it can take a beating. Learning 4wd on tracks where mod is the default, this can be a big plus.

There is great variety right now in 4wd, so its nice that you have the options.
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Old 03-15-2006, 09:21 PM   #36
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I can tell you that BJ4 cars placed 1 thru 5 in our last state series race and TQed also.

As far as price goes, since most of us spend $150-$350 on a charger, $200-$270 on a radio, $120 for a servo, $180 for a top of the line speedo, $65 per battery, who knows how much on tires, etc., does it make any sense to now save money on the kit and waste what we have already spent on a car we know is cheaper, but not really "The best"?

People who are serious about saving money and just want to play should get an RTR T4, or GT for $300 or so and they are all set.

Otherwise, just get what you think is the best.

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I can tell you that BJ4 cars placed 1 thru 5 in our last state series race and TQed also.

As far as price goes, since most of us spend $150-$350 on a charger, $200-$270 on a radio, $120 for a servo, $180 for a top of the line speedo, $65 per battery, who knows how much on tires, etc., does it make any sense to now save money on the kit and waste what we have already spent on a car we know is cheaper, but not really "The best"?

People who are serious about saving money and just want to play should get an RTR T4, or GT for $300 or so and they are all set.

Otherwise, just get what you think is the best.

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I'm with Jim... this is one of those things that if you're going to do it, do it RIGHT. 4WD cars are a different animal from their 2WD counterparts. There is a very wide range of performance and durability between all of the options out there, so if you're going to get into 4WD you should be willing to invest the money to purchase a car that suits your specific needs. If you skimp, you will have wasted your money and you'll just end up selling the car.
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Keep this in mind, you don't need all the high end stuff to have fun in any class. Your driving will make you competitive at most club levels as long as the platform or your gear isn't something so out of the loop that it can't compete no matter what you do. The 4wd vehicles listed by Paul pretty much all have it in them to put you in the front of the pack if your driving is up to it which I can't stress enough.

It may be nice to have all the super high end stuff, but its priceless to see the look on peoples faces when you place ahead of them and they hear what you actually spent. Even if you don't, just you having fun and being happy with the hobby is worth more than anything you could buy for the hobby.

Above all things, have fun and remember, dollars spent don't win races (never seen $1000 drive it self around the track yet) , your skill does.
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Old 03-28-2006, 08:01 AM   #39
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Or you could just buy my BJ4 that is Almost Ready to Run....
Everything you need to hit the track and win.....minus a radio...
I just am focused on Nitro Truggy this season, and don't think it right to let it sit by....
http://www.rctech.net/forum/showthread.php?t=107686
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