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Old 03-15-2019, 05:07 AM
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Can-Am RC Series started in 2018 and during the 2018/9 Season (Season 1) we worked w/ various motor manufactures to build a spec motor racing program that allowed for local tracks and larger races to provide a fair racing ruleset within the on-road racing community. The rules allow for motors to be either-
  1. purchased by tracks / clubs (for them to create their own rental programs)
  2. rented in groupings of 10 for race promotors to put on a larger event
  3. purchased by racers for practice motors / etc.
Can-Am RC Series is actively seeing "engagement" to see if applying both a 'handout' and 'fixed gearing' solution to 1/10th off-road stock racing classes will be welcomed / supported / etc.

Classes we see as a fit include-
  • 1/10th 2wd buggy stock
  • 1/10th 4wd buggy stock
  • 1/10th 2wd sct stock
Please ask questions here or on FB: https://www.facebook.com/canamrcseries
You can check out our existing program for Season 1 at: Can-Am RC Series
We also have an on-road thread here: Can-Am RC Series
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Interesting concept. I'm curious about what your plan or suggestions might be for tire diameters?
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Man this is great, I would be down. Got to dust off my Vega RB5.
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Old 03-15-2019, 08:19 AM
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3. Purchased by racers.

With a claimer rule. Works fine. I originally didn't like the bullet plugs, but am perfectly fine with them now.

A 10.5 with low timing would be great for 4x4 buggy. And allow us to run mod at tracks without stock 4x4 classes, by just reprogramming the esc's.
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Originally Posted by Krio View Post
Interesting concept. I'm curious about what your plan or suggestions might be for tire diameters?
Not sure this is needed. FDR measurement would be key!
Only gap I'm aware of with existing tools would be there need to support e-buggy like larger (17mm?) sized wheel nuts.

if race programs want a true spec a tire could be required.
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Not sure this is needed. FDR measurement would be key!
Only gap I'm aware of with existing tools would be there need to support e-buggy like larger (17mm?) sized wheel nuts.

if race programs want a true spec a tire could be required.
If two cars have the same FDR, but one uses a tire/foam that is 10% larger in diameter, they will be 10% faster. Rollout measurements would work, but then you have to spec gear ratios for combinations of tires and transmissions. And then as the foam breaks down your diameter will shrink, making fresh foams the secret to that extra bit of speed.

Not saying it won't work. Just that I've been down this path before and these issues came up. If you don't spec a specific pre-mounted tire, maybe it just means the 'hot ticket' item will end up being stuffing open cell truck foams in buggy tires. Spec'd tires or not, a fresh set will still have a higher top speed than a pair that is 3-4 race days old and broken down a bit. Pick your poison, because if speed can be bought, it will be.

The cheapest racing I've ever come across was a spec motor and battery that was about $100 for both with open timing/gearing/tires with a buyout rule for the motor and battery.
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So you just hang a go/no-go gauge on the wall for normal tire sizes. Big deal.

Batteries don't matter. There's plenty of cheap low IR batteries out there that run fine. Especially for off road where it hardly matters.
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following.

Assuming this could be looked at for stadium 2wd and maybe even that new 1/10 truggy class?
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The problem I see with a set FDR is that it will just further encourage people dumping $$$ into things like ceramic bearings, cut gears, and lightened components to gain an advantage.
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Originally Posted by Di_spencer View Post
The problem I see with a set FDR is that it will just further encourage people dumping $$$ into things like ceramic bearings, cut gears, and lightened components to gain an advantage.
Incorrect

It's not about pushing the motor ... It's about under gearing it so you have amazing acceleration but gear limited top speed
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Originally Posted by Di_spencer View Post
The problem I see with a set FDR is that it will just further encourage people dumping $$$ into things like ceramic bearings, cut gears, and lightened components to gain an advantage.
You mean like we already are? And constantly nuking rotors. And buying entirely new motors every 9 months?

A bigger motor, with limited timing and gear is going to have enough bottom end to completely negate gears and unobtanium light rotating parts. The CanAm idea was the inevitable future of stock racing as soon as blinky rules became popular.

Personally, I thought boosted stock motors were the best option for off road. Cool in the infield, nuclear on the straight.
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So right now, are there any places looking to give this a go and if so, what class are you guys looking to try it first in?
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Or just run mod and not have to worry about any of this nonsense.
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So right now, are there any places looking to give this a go and if so, what class are you guys looking to try it first in?
This will happen if... Manufacturers want to get involved and start sending in motors.

Season 2 of Can-Am is slated for August 2019 start.
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Or just run mod and not have to worry about any of this nonsense.
Mod isn't in and of itself a panacea. If it was, the turnouts for the class and the absence of spec racing classes would reflect that.

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