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Old 02-06-2019, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by wallacengineeri
Oh yea I hadn't considered the grease inside the bearings. Bummer, yea it would probably ruin them. Such a shame too, I saw a review of 20 different metal treatment products and WD-40 Specialist Corrosion Inhibitor came out on top and after letting all the pieces of steel sit outside for two weeks, it was the only piece still completely free of rust and only a tiny bit of corrosion.

Yea I think I will either just run it as is like I have done before or possibly take RCSparks method of applying marine grease if anything. I actually want to find out what the oil is that Kevin Talibot (another YouTuber) uses on his bearings. Seems to work really well and he is EXTREMELY abusive to his RCs.

I just hope that someone comes out with a boot protector set for the Super Rock Rey. It really would be the best of both worlds. Im actually surprised that manufacturers dont just put boot protectors on all RCs, just seems like common sense to me.
While he is very abusive to his RCs, I'm not sure how much runtime any of those RCs actually have. Bearing life is going to be impacted more by long runtimes (especially in dirty/wet environments) than hucking it off huge skate park ramps.
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Only real bearing failures I've had were traxxas motor mount bearings, and ceramic bearings in a basher.


I bought a big syringe of the lightning lube a few years ago and haven't used much at all.
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I wouldn't spend the dime on cleaners or lubes, nor the time cleaning bearings from what I have experienced. It's a pain in ass to clean them and it seems like you can never get them fully cleaned out. Replace when crunchy or sloppy. At $1 or $2 per bearing from Avidrc.com I learned it's easier to just replace them and not fiddle around.
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While he is very abusive to his RCs, I'm not sure how much runtime any of those RCs actually have. Bearing life is going to be impacted more by long runtimes (especially in dirty/wet environments) than hucking it off huge skate park ramps.
Well I have caught up on pretty much every video he has ever made. He does also run in dirt alot, especially with his X-MAXX. He has also done hydroplaning and mudding quite a few times. He has rebuilt the X-MAXX from scratch 3-4 times that I know of. Each time he takes the seals off of bearings and soaks them in brake parts cleaner, then dries them out for a few hours, applies his "mystery lube", then reassembles.

Im really wondering about this "High Speed Oil" from Boca Bearings. Seems to be a top-notch and quality product. Nothing but 5 star reviews no matter what site I look at, but mainly by fishermen. Apparently its the all time best lube for reel bearing to get ultra-smooth and far-throwing casts, but Boca specifically states on their website that it is also intended for use specifically in RC Cars.
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At $1/bearing, no way I bother opening/cleaning/regreasing bearings on my bashers. Just check once in a way to make sure they're not crunchy and replace as needed. This is 1/10 scale, I have no idea if bigger cars use bigger and more expensive bearings.
Not just the size, the fact that I need sealed bearings at all times due to the dirt and dust and water so I doubt $1 a piece bearings are going to cut it on this truck.
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Only real bearing failures I've had were traxxas motor mount bearings, and ceramic bearings in a basher.


I bought a big syringe of the lightning lube a few years ago and haven't used much at all.
Ya Ive heard that Ceramic Bearings are too easy to break and are only recommended in 1/8th scale buggies or smaller and only if they are strictly used ONLY on a track and are not abused. Stainless Steel is the ideal bashing choice for strength and rust resistance.

Im glad you have some experience with the lightning lube. I see that choice and then high speed oil and then the Road one. Do you know if maybe one is grease and the other is oil or something? I would like to try their grease on the outer diff gear mesh if possible.
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Originally Posted by wallacengineeri
Ya Ive heard that Ceramic Bearings are too easy to break and are only recommended in 1/8th scale buggies or smaller and only if they are strictly used ONLY on a track and are not abused. Stainless Steel is the ideal bashing choice for strength and rust resistance.

Im glad you have some experience with the lightning lube. I see that choice and then high speed oil and then the Road one. Do you know if maybe one is grease and the other is oil or something? I would like to try their grease on the outer diff gear mesh if possible.
I don't remember. When I made my original purchase I talked to boca customer service and they broke it down for me, it's just been years since I looked into it.
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I don't remember. When I made my original purchase I talked to boca customer service and they broke it down for me, it's just been years since I looked into it.
Eh well guess Ill give them a call in the morning then and work it out. Thanks though
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Originally Posted by wallacengineeri
Not just the size, the fact that I need sealed bearings at all times due to the dirt and dust and water so I doubt $1 a piece bearings are going to cut it on this truck.
Avid sells both 8x16 and 10x19 bearings for $1 each. That being said, what sorts of proof do you have that a 1$ bearing is less durable than say a 3$ or 4$ bearing?

To put it another way, if I took those avid bearings, repackaged them and tripled the price, would you be able to discern the difference?

What I'm getting at is that if you crash hard enough to destroy a bearing, it really doesn't matter how much you spent on it. In all likelihood, the bearing will be toast, along with other parts. So, you might as well do yourself a favor and just get the 1$ bearings. But, if you want more expensive bearings, PM and i'm sure we can work something out.
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Originally Posted by 071crazy
Avid sells both 8x16 and 10x19 bearings for $1 each. That being said, what sorts of proof do you have that a 1$ bearing is less durable than say a 3$ or 4$ bearing?

To put it another way, if I took those avid bearings, repackaged them and tripled the price, would you be able to discern the difference?

What I'm getting at is that if you crash hard enough to destroy a bearing, it really doesn't matter how much you spent on it. In all likelihood, the bearing will be toast, along with other parts. So, you might as well do yourself a favor and just get the 1$ bearings. But, if you want more expensive bearings, PM and i'm sure we can work something out.
Oh well Im not saying that more expensive bearings are tougher at all, but like I said, I need specifically Stainless Steel and rubber seals on both sides of the bearings. So if Avid has those for $1 each then thats great but I doubt Ill be able to get every single bearing twin-sealed and rust-resistant Stainless Steel for just $1 each throughout the entire truck.

To be honest, you would need thousands of Gs of impact force to actually break a Stainless Bearing. Really, you only need to even worry about breaking Ceramic Bearings.

Also, I would still like to do some maintenance on my bearings just so if it comes time when the grease is all gone or wore out, I fan try the high speed oil, free up the bearings, and see just how fast the monster can get with basically no drive-train drag whatsoever.

I dont care about the pricing of items, I care about quality first above all else. I just got to make sure that any bearing I replace is replaced by bearings that are 100% Stainless on both races and the balls, and are sealed on both sides preferably with rubber.

EDIT: Actually turns out that Avid already has a kit for the Super Rock Rey for just $25. Not bad. Its a bummer that they use lower quality chrome steel but at that price its hard to really care a whole lot. If I do need my full Stainless Bearings I guess I can head to another company. Boca Bearings allows you to choose the build material for the races, the balls, and the seals. But holy cow are they expensive. The 8x16x5 mm bearings in 440C Stainless Steel for both the Races and the Balls with rubber seals are $8 each!

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Use sealed bearings. Pop the rubber seals off when new. Drag them through green marine grease in your hand until it squirts out the other side. The bearing is packed. But don't over pack it, the seals will fall off. Click the seals back on, done.

With green marine grease, you can hose your car off with no bearing worries.
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Originally Posted by Zerodefect
Use sealed bearings. Pop the rubber seals off when new. Drag them through green marine grease in your hand until it squirts out the other side. The bearing is packed. But don't over pack it, the seals will fall off. Click the seals back on, done.

With green marine grease, you can hose your car off with no bearing worries.
I will keep this is mind, thanks!
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