806LikesTLR 22 5.0
12-07-2018, 06:55 PM
#121
I’m all for cars evolving and even tracks changing a bit, but there’s a point where I draw the line, and that is when carpet takes over off-road altogether. When guys are so desirous of traction that they’ll say - “f*** it, lets just run on carpet.” Oh, yeah, and why don’t we just put down our radios and just push pur cars around the track by hand? That would fully eliminate traction issues.
Like I said, I don’t enjoy racing on it, but let’s recognize the reasons why it’s used. There are good reasons tracks are turning to it.
12-07-2018, 08:39 PM
#122
Tech Initiate
That isn’t why carpet is being run. In the UK and places in Europe turf was and is used outdoor because the rain is too frequent for dirt to be a reliable racing surface. More recently it has been used so that races can be held in temporary locations, it’s cleaner and easier to maintain in permanent locations (tell a landlord you’re going to put truckloads of dirt in their building...). Plus, show me a hobby business that makes enough $ to pay for track build helpers. All that, and it’s almost 100% consistent so everyone has fair runs.
Like I said, I don’t enjoy racing on it, but let’s recognize the reasons why it’s used. There are good reasons tracks are turning to it.
Anyway, enough of this crap from me. This thread is for discussing the new 5.0, not debating carpet vs. dirt.
12-08-2018, 07:22 PM
#123
For those who have owned both modern Associated and TLR buggies, do you find them very comparable? Would it be more costly to maintain a TLR vs Associated? I'm still a beginner with decent driving experience, so I can get used to anything, but I'm curious on what the biggest differences between them are. My B6.1D has been a great platform to learn with, and has been extremely tough. I've only broken one part in about 4 months of running it. It was a rear arm while practicing clearing the new triple at my local track. Didn't even noticed it was cracked until I got home, though. I'm looking to switch because I enjoy building kits, both brands see success at my track, the SR will have everything I wanted on my current car, and I need an excuse to paint a new body.
12-09-2018, 09:20 AM
#124
For those who have owned both modern Associated and TLR buggies, do you find them very comparable? Would it be more costly to maintain a TLR vs Associated? I'm still a beginner with decent driving experience, so I can get used to anything, but I'm curious on what the biggest differences between them are. My B6.1D has been a great platform to learn with, and has been extremely tough. I've only broken one part in about 4 months of running it. It was a rear arm while practicing clearing the new triple at my local track. Didn't even noticed it was cracked until I got home, though. I'm looking to switch because I enjoy building kits, both brands see success at my track, the SR will have everything I wanted on my current car, and I need an excuse to paint a new body.
12-09-2018, 02:39 PM
#125
Tech Master
I remember about 8 years ago when people were saying things like "if mid motor is so good, why isn't anyone running it?" or "rear motor will always be king". Car designs are representative of the most common track designs. If everyone still raced on old school soft loam, we would not see everyone running laydown 3 gear mid motor setups. They would not work as well. I don't care who claims otherwise.
That being said, I'm making my shopping list for the 5.0 to become truely dirt worthy...
12-10-2018, 05:45 PM
#126
It is going to be a long one till some people start running this and seeing what needs improving, while we talk all about clay tracks dying out, lol! I see the 4.0 has dropped in price. Would be nice to see a comparison between the 4.0 and 5.0, just sayin. I am seriously looking at this when it becomes available. I am running a B5M and really like it. Not sure on the B6.1 just yet as this has really caught my eye, the 22 5.0. I am getting faster and want something that can handle the power I want to throw at it. I now have a Reedy 8.0 in my B5M, and will be putting an RSX in it to take use of the extra power. .
12-10-2018, 09:11 PM
#127
Tech Rookie
Looks like TLR saved me some money. It appears the 22 5.0 is a totally different buggy with no way to convert a 4.0 to it. Beings my 22 4.0sr is only a few months old and I'm still getting the hang of racing after 8 years away I see no need to buy a complete new kit. By the time I get good and competitive they will most likely have another kit out and I will probably skip the 22 5.0 altogether. Lol
12-14-2018, 09:39 AM
#128
It is going to be a long one till some people start running this and seeing what needs improving, while we talk all about clay tracks dying out, lol! I see the 4.0 has dropped in price. Would be nice to see a comparison between the 4.0 and 5.0, just sayin. I am seriously looking at this when it becomes available. I am running a B5M and really like it. Not sure on the B6.1 just yet as this has really caught my eye, the 22 5.0. I am getting faster and want something that can handle the power I want to throw at it. I now have a Reedy 8.0 in my B5M, and will be putting an RSX in it to take use of the extra power. .
I really liked my 22 3.0SR but it was more edgy than my B6, but a brass anti-squat block and some tweeks got them feeling similar. Going from the 22 3.0sr to the 22 4.0 was night/day different in a great way too.. All the great changes I noticed b/t the B5M & B6, I also noticed when switching from 22 3.0 to 4.0.. forgiving, easy to drive fast, etc.. so much so that my 22 3.0 was on ebay a couple of days later. I never owned a TLR 22t unitl the 4.0, but had heard the changes to it made it feel like a completely different truck than the 3.0 too. I love my 22t 4.0!
Based on TLR/Franks track record with platform tweeks… It safe to bet that the 5.0 will have noticeable driving differences over the 4.0. I don't know how it would but I'm looking forward to finding out
0.02
12-14-2018, 09:51 AM
#129
For those who have owned both modern Associated and TLR buggies, do you find them very comparable? Would it be more costly to maintain a TLR vs Associated? I'm still a beginner with decent driving experience, so I can get used to anything, but I'm curious on what the biggest differences between them are. My B6.1D has been a great platform to learn with, and has been extremely tough. I've only broken one part in about 4 months of running it. It was a rear arm while practicing clearing the new triple at my local track. Didn't even noticed it was cracked until I got home, though. I'm looking to switch because I enjoy building kits, both brands see success at my track, the SR will have everything I wanted on my current car, and I need an excuse to paint a new body.
I honestly have never seen that kind of interaction with the average Joe racer from another company, let alone for as long as Losi/TLR has been doing it.
So, come on over to the Darkside… they have people that will help you learn more.
ps: TLR guys.. don't make a liar out me! lol
12-14-2018, 12:14 PM
#130
I've got a B6.1 and going to pick up the 5.0. So we'll see. 
12-16-2018, 02:26 PM
#134
Tech Rookie
I haven’t been into the hobby for years but I’m looking to return as a first time buggy racer. I’m going to need to buy everything right down to the battery charger.
So to get to my questions, currently the 4.0 is on sale for $200. Am I going to quickly see parts and support for the 4.0 disappear? Does the 4.0 and 5.0 share many parts (atleast from what is known at this point). I doubt I’ll see any noticeable differences from the two since I’ve never driven a buggy but I also don’t want to be super outdated from the start, let alone in a year or two. What is everyone’s opinions?
12-17-2018, 01:10 PM
#135
