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Old 10-01-2019, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by DirtyDog3375
Thanks heaps Frank! Much appreciated.

One last question, gear diff vs ball diff? I see in the setup and all the dirt based setups only use ball diffs (even on high grip tracks), why is that? how often do you rebuild them?

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A gear diff has less grip, it isn't something I would run on clay/dirt as it will sacrifice performance quite a bit.

A ball diff in stock will last months.
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Old 10-02-2019, 05:04 AM
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TLR, RELEASE AN EASY ACCESS TRANSMISSION CASE!

This is getting absurd.
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Old 10-02-2019, 07:31 AM
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I understand everyone wants a quick change diff case. But I rarely ever pull my diff so its not a big deal to me. I mean with a electric driver diff can be in hand in under 5 minutes.
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Old 10-02-2019, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by tony montana
I understand everyone wants a quick change diff case. But I rarely ever pull my diff so its not a big deal to me. I mean with a electric driver diff can be in hand in under 5 minutes.
I personally think that it becomes a bigger deal for anyone running the car with the gear diff, where it becomes more of a tuning option. I also think that when it must be done, it’s not so much an issue of “oh, it’s just a few more screws” than it is a time saver. Imagine running multiple classes where you have less time to work on every vehicle. Not only is it a time saver, but it encourages you to change that diff oil, or maybe even change the diff height, if you are running the ball diff. If it doesn’t work, it’s definitely a lot of time saved setting it back... TL;DR versión, it encourages more experimentation with the buggy.

Anyway, the 8ight-X has it, and as fuzzy as the spy shot was, it LOOKS like the 22X-4 has it, With his increased design involvement now official, I have faith that Jr. will get it done.
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Old 10-02-2019, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by purplerain
TLR, RELEASE AN EASY ACCESS TRANSMISSION CASE!

This is getting absurd.
Where can you find the information at?

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Originally Posted by tony montana
I understand everyone wants a quick change diff case. But I rarely ever pull my diff so its not a big deal to me. I mean with a electric driver diff can be in hand in under 5 minutes.
Probably even less time. I pulled the tranny in mine to install a direct drive. But after seeing how easy it is to access the diffs on my B74, I have a B6.1 on the way. I also see the quick access diff as a benefit if you’re under the gun to make a change, because there’s less of a chance of not putting it back together correctly.
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Old 10-02-2019, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by TurnNBurn


I personally think that it becomes a bigger deal for anyone running the car with the gear diff, where it becomes more of a tuning option. I also think that when it must be done, it’s not so much an issue of “oh, it’s just a few more screws” than it is a time saver. Imagine running multiple classes where you have less time to work on every vehicle. Not only is it a time saver, but it encourages you to change that diff oil, or maybe even change the diff height, if you are running the ball diff. If it doesn’t work, it’s definitely a lot of time saved setting it back... TL;DR versión, it encourages more experimentation with the buggy.

Anyway, the 8ight-X has it, and as fuzzy as the spy shot was, it LOOKS like the 22X-4 has it, With his increased design involvement now official, I have faith that Jr. will get it done.
I run 2 classes regularly and just picked up a 22t 4.0 for bigger races. I was running my 22 4.0 at the time and a bearing started going out in the transmission on race day. I got it diagnosed and changed in between heats but it was quite frustrating. It didnt help I was sitting right next to a speaker that was turned up more than need be and if the announcer wasnt loud enough, there was a loud beep every time a car passed the loop.. I litarally finished the buggy outside on the hard pickup bed cover.. I guess I'm a gluten for punishment, all my 1/10 offroad are TLR and I replaced the 4.0 with the 5.0..lol
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Old 10-02-2019, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Kswarrior
I run 2 classes regularly and just picked up a 22t 4.0 for bigger races. I was running my 22 4.0 at the time and a bearing started going out in the transmission on race day. I got it diagnosed and changed in between heats but it was quite frustrating. It didnt help I was sitting right next to a speaker that was turned up more than need be and if the announcer wasnt loud enough, there was a loud beep every time a car passed the loop.. I litarally finished the buggy outside on the hard pickup bed cover.. I guess I'm a gluten for punishment, all my 1/10 offroad are TLR and I replaced the 4.0 with the 5.0..lol
You just made another good point/scenario - although in this exact case, if it was an idler and not a diff bearing, than there isn’t an easy access gearbox case in the world that would’ve helped you with that one...
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Any one KNOW the difference between the VHA and the regular?
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Old 10-02-2019, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by racene1
Any one KNOW the difference between the VHA and the regular?
More space on the outer end, but the geometry is identical. You can see that the 90° arm stiffener is located more towards the center of the arm.

Just my two cents on the current diff case, it keeps people from buying the car, so it should be addressed with the 22X or however the next 2WD will be called. Also, a layback/LD gearbox option IMHO is mandatory today. One of the reasons we race on astroturf in Europe is the fact that you can run in the rain or shortly afterwards, and if you ever slipped on wet astro, you can imagine that a full laydown car is not always the best option. For people running on low to medium grip dirt, it is a no-brainer anyway.
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Old 10-03-2019, 09:00 AM
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Well, despite my wishlist concerns (as also noted in the 22X “Next Gen” 2WD wishlist thread), this happened:



So, who’s gonna be the first one to welcome me to the family?

Anyway, My concerns about addressing the gearbox possibilities shared here so far (easy diff access, possibly the return of a layback option for weight distribution), lay in your hands, TLR... I made a leap of faith, and with Gil Jr. back in a more significant role (at least significant enough to formally announce it), I have faith that you guys will strive to make the 5.0 even better.
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Old 10-03-2019, 10:11 AM
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If there had been an AC version of the Elite before I went for the CAL3, I might have been able to welcome you, but as it is, I'll have to wait for the new wheeler to return to TLR. It's been almost two years since my last Losi, and the 22T 4.0 and I had a rough start and we split after I could not get new outdrives for the planetary gear diff for a while. As it seems, support issues in Germany have been resolved and I am looking forward to the 22X-4. Chances are high I'll write a built report/review for petitrc.
But back to topic; how do you guys like the front axle bearing inserts? I did not drive the truck long enough to love or hate them. Should they be included in the neXt generation 22 or not? Do you use them as an adjustment option at all or would you prefer a fixed setting instead?
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Originally Posted by mes
But back to topic; how do you guys like the front axle bearing inserts? I did not drive the truck long enough to love or hate them. Should they be included in the neXt generation 22 or not? Do you use them as an adjustment option at all or would you prefer a fixed setting instead?
IMO, they are a big design flaw and the only "fix" TLR has for it is to sell us way overpriced aluminum ones. For me the trail setting is a "set it and forget it" feature and having fixed trail would be a much more robust option. Or include aluminum inserts, for both sides, in every kit. And forget those flimsy molded inserts.
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