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Old 01-30-2019, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by RazorRC


I mean, believe what you want to believe. I have a 5.0 and the shocks definitely feel different on the track than the older shocks. I never felt there was anything wrong with the 4.0 shocks, so canít say the new ones are better, they just have a different feel.
I mean, believe what you want to believe as well, right? I've also seen a set of g3 shocks bind out of the box. Yes, they were built properly, and waiting for the seals to swell up won't fix the issue either.

Believe what you want to believe, TLR does make mistakes from time to time.

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Old 01-30-2019, 10:11 AM
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No leakage to report with my 5.0 shocks after roughly 10 packs
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Originally Posted by 071crazy
I mean, believe what you want to believe as well, right? I've also seen a set of g3 shocks bind out of the box. Yes, they were built properly, and waiting for the seals to swell up won't fix the issue either.

Believe what you want to believe, TLR does make mistakes from time to time.
This is the first I've heard of them binding, if you've seen an actual problem, maybe you can just state what you've seen because I don't think anyone else has commented on this. What was the source of the binding? TLR shocks have always been somewhat leaky out of the box, as per TLR themselves and my experience, but I haven't heard of a binding problem before.
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Old 01-30-2019, 12:38 PM
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Oh boy, what have I started... I wish people would adopt 1/10 truggies like they adopt speculations and rumors!

That being said I don't think many of use here are engineers, nor TLR engineers at that. If there is an issue, it will be stated and fixed just like always. The sheer amount of effort and planning that goes into developing a supply and manufacturing chain to produce something as simple as a shock body is absolutely immense. not to mention complications due to tooling, misinterpretations, supplier vs. purchaser expectations etc. Issues come up sometimes, even after release.

As for others running the 4.0 shocks... this is a totally new setup with little overall time to tune in respect to how long we have had to mess with 4.0 shocks. It's pretty easy, and logical, to revert back to your good known shock package on race day when time is of the essence and you're trying to win.
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Old 01-30-2019, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by mtbwrench
Oh boy, what have I started... I wish people would adopt 1/10 truggies like they adopt speculations and rumors!
No. Hate truggies.

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That being said I don't think many of use here are engineers, nor TLR engineers at that.
I am. I've designed many things FAR more complicated and complex than rc cars. They are actually quite easy. You don't need to be an engineer to design a good one. Many design concepts are shared and copied among manufacturers so no one vehicle truly has a ton of engineering in it anymore.

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The sheer amount of effort and planning that goes into developing a supply and manufacturing chain to produce something as simple as a shock body is absolutely immense. not to mention complications due to tooling, misinterpretations, supplier vs. purchaser expectations etc. Issues come up sometimes, even after release.
This is correct and true with engineering anything that is intended to be mass produced. It's always difficult and far more complex than most people realize.
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Talking with my LHS owner he said he also heard from TLR the 22 AC kit has been delayed due to gear diff. They experienced some issues and reworking the gear diff.
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Old 01-31-2019, 03:53 PM
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About to go buy an SR, was curious if the Titanium Turnbuckles were compatible with the 4.0? I know it had been mentioned in a post, but wanted to be 100% sure before I start purchasing parts.
Also the Aluminum Shock Caps, will the 4.0 ones do?

I currently have a B6.1D I've been running since September which I really love, going to be interesting to compare and contrast the 2 brands!
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Originally Posted by thirtydaZe
About to go buy an SR, was curious if the Titanium Turnbuckles were compatible with the 4.0? I know it had been mentioned in a post, but wanted to be 100% sure before I start purchasing parts.
Also the Aluminum Shock Caps, will the 4.0 ones do?

I currently have a B6.1D I've been running since September which I really love, going to be interesting to compare and contrast the 2 brands!
The turnbuckles are the same, the shock caps are not directly compatible. The G3 caps have a lower profile than the G2 caps, which would make total shock length longer.

EDIT: oversight on my part, the above is incorrect. The steering turnbuckles on the 5.0 are 5mm shorter.
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Old 01-31-2019, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by thirtydaZe
About to go buy an SR, was curious if the Titanium Turnbuckles were compatible with the 4.0? I know it had been mentioned in a post, but wanted to be 100% sure before I start purchasing parts.
Also the Aluminum Shock Caps, will the 4.0 ones do?

I currently have a B6.1D I've been running since September which I really love, going to be interesting to compare and contrast the 2 brands!
All the turnbuckles that come in the 5.0 kit are the same length. On the other hand the front and rear camber link length has not changed from the 4.0. But the steering link is shorter. So basically 4 of the 6 will work from the 4.0.
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Originally Posted by fordohio
All the turnbuckles that come in the 5.0 kit are the same length. On the other hand the front and rear camber link length has not changed from the 4.0. But the steering link is shorter. So basically 4 of the 6 will work from the 4.0.
You are correct, I'll fix my oversight: 4.0 steering turnbuckles are 55mm, whilst the 5.0 steering turnbuckles are 50mm.
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Old 01-31-2019, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by thirtydaZe
About to go buy an SR, was curious if the Titanium Turnbuckles were compatible with the 4.0? I know it had been mentioned in a post, but wanted to be 100% sure before I start purchasing parts.
Also the Aluminum Shock Caps, will the 4.0 ones do?

I currently have a B6.1D I've been running since September which I really love, going to be interesting to compare and contrast the 2 brands!
The turnbuckles from the 4.0 do work. I put them on my 5.0 just put the 2 shorter ones on the steering links.
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Old 02-03-2019, 01:37 PM
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All of the turnbuckles in my 5.0 SR kit are 50mm, the turnbuckles that came in the JConcepts 22 4.0 package include 2 50mm, and 4 55mm turnbuckles.

In my view the is not a proper fit. I'd recommend waiting on titanium turnbuckles until someone release them specifically for the 5.0 buggy.
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Old 02-03-2019, 03:42 PM
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TLR does already have a kit out, my LHS has had it in stock for a week or two. I'm a fan of the TLR kits because while they aren't as blingy, they come with extra ball cups, and they're just as functional.

I'd love some black ones though.
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I currently have the TLR brand Ti links. I also got them because they come with spare ball cups. So now my steel links are backups, but I think these will hold up well.
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Originally Posted by I_NeedBigDrink
I currently have the TLR brand Ti links. I also got them because they come with spare ball cups. So now my steel links are backups, but I think these will hold up well.
have a part number on them?
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