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Old 03-25-2020, 09:44 PM
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B6 wheels make the 22 too wide to be legal. In order to make B6 wheels work on the front of the 22 you would have to redesign the front suspension and steering geometry.
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Old 03-26-2020, 07:24 AM
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why not just buy TLR wheels? this, "will b6 wheels work" discussion gets old.
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Old 03-26-2020, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by thirtydaZe View Post
why not just buy TLR wheels? this, "will b6 wheels work" discussion gets old.
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Old 03-26-2020, 08:49 AM
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B6 wheel talk is here to stay till something changes.
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Old 03-26-2020, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris Reilly View Post
B6 wheel talk is here to stay till something changes.
Maybe you could create a "Will b6 Wheels Work" thread in the main forum, and you can see how many different brands b6 wheels will fit in there.
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Old 03-26-2020, 11:12 AM
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I have searched a bit, but I am only confusing myself. I had a 22 5.0DC, sold it and have been running AE for the past year or so. Now I have picked up an Elite that looks freaking awesome and can't wait to be able to race again. My question is all of the different shock options, G3, 3.0 shafts, 3.5 shafts, old aluminum caps, G3 aluminum caps. What is going on and when and why would I need one over the other. I run on a med/high grip clay track.

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Old 03-26-2020, 01:26 PM
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Pre 5.0 is G2 shocks, 5.0 is G3 shocks. 22X-4 they are calling G3 v2, but they only changed the x-rings and spacer in the bottom to seal a little better.

G3 shocks come with plastic shock caps, with aluminum as an option.

3mm shafts move a little quicker, pack a little less. A little more responsive. Most people liked the 3.5mm shafts (that the G2 had) better on dirt, so the newer Elite comes with 3.5mm shafts.
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Old 03-26-2020, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris Reilly View Post
AE wheels will work if you grind down the hex inside the rim just enough to fit. I borrowed a set from someone I know. The hex is to deep.
yeah I did that too ... it works but the buggy feels funky compared to using the TLR front wheels in front. I asked Frank Root about it and he said using the AE front wheels even grinded will screw up the geometry .... and he was right.
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Old 03-26-2020, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by jonski View Post
I have searched a bit, but I am only confusing myself. I had a 22 5.0DC, sold it and have been running AE for the past year or so. Now I have picked up an Elite that looks freaking awesome and can't wait to be able to race again. My question is all of the different shock options, G3, 3.0 shafts, 3.5 shafts, old aluminum caps, G3 aluminum caps. What is going on and when and why would I need one over the other. I run on a med/high grip clay track.

Thanks guys!
welcome back to tlr, just the usual over here. develop a platform, then change the crap out of it and use other manufacturers parts too
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Old 03-26-2020, 02:29 PM
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Has anyone tried the long arm pivots on the front end? meaning kingpin screws into the outer holes on the front arms and caster blocks. all the setups i have seen and all i have ran is with them in the inner holes. i would imagine similar roll center, camber gain and bump steer could be tuned in as with the short arm setting?
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Old 03-27-2020, 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by RazorRC View Post
Pre 5.0 is G2 shocks, 5.0 is G3 shocks. 22X-4 they are calling G3 v2, but they only changed the x-rings and spacer in the bottom to seal a little better.

G3 shocks come with plastic shock caps, with aluminum as an option.

3mm shafts move a little quicker, pack a little less. A little more responsive. Most people liked the 3.5mm shafts (that the G2 had) better on dirt, so the newer Elite comes with 3.5mm shafts.
Thanks for that! What about the aluminum caps? I bought a used Elite and the previous owner had the G2 aluminum cap on the G3 that came with the Elite. Is this right? Seems like the caps are longer than the threaded section.
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Old 03-27-2020, 08:30 AM
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Thanks for that! What about the aluminum caps? I bought a used Elite and the previous owner had the G2 aluminum cap on the G3 that came with the Elite. Is this right? Seems like the caps are longer than the threaded section.
That is not right. For aluminum shock caps you will need TLR333003. They come in a pair, and for plastic caps you can get TLR233029 they come in a 4 pack. The durability of the plastic is just fine if you want to save some cash. Me personally I like the old g2 shocks better then the G3 shocks.
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Old 03-27-2020, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by fantomdude View Post
That is not right. For aluminum shock caps you will need TLR333003. They come in a pair, and for plastic caps you can get TLR233029 they come in a 4 pack. The durability of the plastic is just fine if you want to save some cash. Me personally I like the old g2 shocks better then the G3 shocks.
What do you like better? Can you explain?
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Old 03-27-2020, 09:52 AM
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What do you like better? Can you explain?
I was at the track and didn't like how my car was handling the bumps so I decided to rebuild my shocks. The G3 shocks with no oil in them pushing the shaft in and out, the shaft had some resistance on it. So I pulled out my old G2 shocks and did they same thing they where like 10 times smoother. I rebuilt the G2 shocks and mounted them up and my car soaked up the bumps a lot better. I think the new G3 V2 seals and bushings will cure that on the G3 shocks.
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Old 03-27-2020, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by fantomdude View Post
I was at the track and didn't like how my car was handling the bumps so I decided to rebuild my shocks. The G3 shocks with no oil in them pushing the shaft in and out, the shaft had some resistance on it. So I pulled out my old G2 shocks and did they same thing they where like 10 times smoother. I rebuilt the G2 shocks and mounted them up and my car soaked up the bumps a lot better. I think the new G3 V2 seals and bushings will cure that on the G3 shocks.
The new V2 seals are what is coming on the X-4 correct? If so, they will be for 3.0 shafts, not the 3.5 shafts. Boy they sure did screw up a good thing. The V2 shocks were some of the best in the biz.
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