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Old 02-10-2020, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by rcgod
I know this is the tlr thread, but can anyone give me an honest opinion how the elite compares to the b6.1/6.2? My son drives a b6.1 factory light. Iíve driven it and itís good. But the losi seems like a better deal. And Iíve always preferred tlr to ae. We run on pretty high bite clay (slicks) so my concern is does the car work well on high bite? Most of the fast locals run ae, so that would be an easy choice for setup help. But I really like the design of the 5.0 minus not having a quick access diff.
TBH, feature-wise, the cars are much on par at this point, IMHO. The big draw for me, particularly as it pertains to the Elite, is that there really arenít any more ďoptionĒ parts you need to get. Sure, you could argue that the carbon battery tray is an option, but to me, thatís more of a bling part than anything else; the composite tray works just fine.

The other big intangible is the fact that Gil Jr. announced late last year that he would have much greater involvement as a consultant moving forward, so I am very intrigued with what he will bring to the table. Jr. is that intangible ďXĒ Factor (no pun intended - OK, maybe a little ) that could differentiate the two.

All that being said, I would expect that a ď5.1Ē or ď22XĒ (whatever the marketing guys want to call it) will probably include a new gearbox with easy diff access. Everyone else has it now, so itís the one thing that will keep coming up over and over when anyone reviews the buggy. Between that and a return of Open ball cups (which honestly, I bought the existing Open ball cups to see if the popping off problem still exists), I honestly canít think of anything else that the buggy needs right now. I would also expect that this year too. Frank already mentioned that the 22T will still be around for the foreseeable future, and the 8XE is probably already getting the final touches done for an Elite release, so I can imagine that the 22 will once again be in the spotlight before Nats roll around later this year. I would also expect that any upgrade to the 22 will not leave 5.0 owners in the cold.
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Old 02-10-2020, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by TurnNBurn
TBH, feature-wise, the cars are much on par at this point, IMHO. The big draw for me, particularly as it pertains to the Elite, is that there really arenít any more ďoptionĒ parts you need to get. Sure, you could argue that the carbon battery tray is an option, but to me, thatís more of a bling part than anything else; the composite tray works just fine.

The other big intangible is the fact that Gil Jr. announced late last year that he would have much greater involvement as a consultant moving forward, so I am very intrigued with what he will bring to the table. Jr. is that intangible ďXĒ Factor (no pun intended - OK, maybe a little ) that could differentiate the two.

All that being said, I would expect that a ď5.1Ē or ď22XĒ (whatever the marketing guys want to call it) will probably include a new gearbox with easy diff access. Everyone else has it now, so itís the one thing that will keep coming up over and over when anyone reviews the buggy. Between that and a return of Open ball cups (which honestly, I bought the existing Open ball cups to see if the popping off problem still exists), I honestly canít think of anything else that the buggy needs right now. I would also expect that this year too. Frank already mentioned that the 22T will still be around for the foreseeable future, and the 8XE is probably already getting the final touches done for an Elite release, so I can imagine that the 22 will once again be in the spotlight before Nats roll around later this year. I would also expect that any upgrade to the 22 will not leave 5.0 owners in the cold.
I agree with your points but I would like to see a layback option as well which most brands now include. For us low bite racers the layback would be a great option.
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Old 02-10-2020, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by GettinLapped
I agree with your points but I would like to see a layback option as well which most brands now include. For us low bite racers the layback would be a great option.
Like this? This is the "standup" transmission used on the 22 platform before the laydown was introduced. It should still work on a 5.0 chassis without issue.
https://www.horizonhobby.com/stand-u...2-40-tlr338007
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Old 02-10-2020, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by jmitchell
Like this? This is the "standup" transmission used on the 22 platform before the laydown was introduced. It should still work on a 5.0 chassis without issue.
https://www.horizonhobby.com/stand-u...2-40-tlr338007
That will work, but At the additional cost of also losing adjustable diff height with that gearbox, and if Iím not mistaken, youíd have to go back to the 4.0 rear shock tower, no? Not sure about 5.0 compatibility there... Otherwise, if they updated that transmission with the adjustable height easy access diff, that would be spectacular as well.

In either case, it seems to me like TLR made the conscious decision to commit toward making the lay down work everywhere, which given all the options to add weight in the rear down low, is plausible.
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Originally Posted by TurnNBurn
That will work, but At the additional cost of also losing adjustable diff height with that gearbox, and if Iím not mistaken, youíd have to go back to the 4.0 rear shock tower, no? Not sure about 5.0 compatibility there... Otherwise, if they updated that transmission with the adjustable height easy access diff, that would be spectacular as well.

In either case, it seems to me like TLR made the conscious decision to commit toward making the lay down work everywhere, which given all the options to add weight in the rear down low, is plausible.
The stand up is not even worth the install at this point, lose some features and is not that great on the track. Where I race all the fast guys run layback, laydown is good but just not quite on pace. Hopefully Tlr gives us that option with the next platform.
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Old 02-10-2020, 04:28 PM
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Has anyone got a good stand-up setup for 5.0, running holeshot on loose slippery dirt.
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Is there any other xrings that will fit the 3mm shafts and 3.5mm shafts these things swell so quickly
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Old 02-10-2020, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by iamhovaflo
Is there any other xrings that will fit the 3mm shafts and 3.5mm shafts these things swell so quickly
All the xrings swell over about the same amount of time.
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Old 02-13-2020, 08:23 PM
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Hi under what consideration would you run +.75 rear hex than standard ? Mine drives well for the most part but feel rear would break lose if I am not careful , would a wider hex the fix to my problem ?
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Hi under what consideration would you run +.75 rear hex than standard ? Mine drives well for the most part but feel rear would break lose if I am not careful , would a wider hex the fix to my problem ?
when have associated wheels and want to keep the track width the same
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Hello all,

I am planning on getting either the TLR 22 5.0, probably the elite or the Team Associated B6.2D within the next two weeks. I would like to start taking this car to my local track which is OCRC Raceway in Huntington Beach. This would be my first build and I wanted to ask for advice on which of these two would be better for my situation, or are these kits to complicated for a first time build? Ease of the build and maintenance are my main deciding factors at this point. I have invested in a lot of RC tools so having the required tools won't be an issue. I currently have three RTR cars (Ruster 4x4 non brushed, losi db tenacity pro and LC Racing truggy) and want to build a kit so I can become more knowledgeable with the mechanics and parts of a car.
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Just watched the youtube video by RazorRC and read about the easy access diff so leaning towards the B6 right now.
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Builds would be fairly similar. Both are good cars.

Iíd probably go with a elite over the 6.2 myself. All those option parts included in the kit is a dang good deal.
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Originally Posted by Red13
Just watched the youtube video by RazorRC and read about the easy access diff so leaning towards the B6 right now.
To be honest on a 2wd once you build a ball diff unless your a pro your not going to need to access it for months anyway once properly built. And when you do need to do maintenance on it well it's good to take everything out anyway so you can check and make sure everything else is good. I am an average Joe driver so only every couple of months I rebuild my diffs. If there smooth not gritty and car is working properly why do you need to keep replacing them. It's not like a 22-4 to get out diffs anyway, 5 minutes about 10 screws and it's out. All part of the hobby. JMO
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Originally Posted by Tag
Hi under what consideration would you run +.75 rear hex than standard ? Mine drives well for the most part but feel rear would break lose if I am not careful , would a wider hex the fix to my problem ?
I've had to use the wider hex to run some DE wheels I had on my 4.0/5.0 buggy so they didn't wobble when bolted up.
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