1089LikesTeam Associated B6.1 & B6.1D thread
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Welcome to the B6.1 and B6.1D Wiki page.   Features: Easy-access gear differential Differential height adjustment with 0, 1, 2, and 3mm inserts included New slipper assembly for better weight balance and shock clearance 3-gear Laydown Stealth(r) transmission for lower and forward CG Heavy-duty V2 routed graphite front shock tower with tower guard Heavy-duty V2 routed graphite rear tower, standard height Heavy-duty V2 rear axle with 67mm bones V2 springs for a more reactive and nimble feel Innovative rear arm with molded inserts for ultra-fine lower shock mount adjustment Molded spur gear guard to help protect body from damage Front and rear anti-roll bars limit chassis roll for increased corner speed Battery strap allows the use of optional turnbuckle-based braces Machined pistons included for better fit and smoother operation Aluminum rear clamping hex and front axle with laser etching Rear hubs feature large bearings and the easy-insert system to adjust camber link position and rear axle height One-piece shock bushing to make assembly easier Aluminum C and D arm mounts included for large range of anti-squat and toe adjustment Lightweight aluminum top shaft Factory Team upgraded ball bearing kit included (now oiled instead of greased for less drag) JConcepts(r) B6 clear body and wing included Steel chassis weight Shortened, 7075 aluminum chassis   Features: Easy-access ball differential Differential height adjustment with 0, 1, 2, and 3mm inserts included New slipper assembly for better weight balance and shock clearance 3-gear Lay Back Stealth(r) transmission for lower and rearward CG Heavy-duty V2 routed graphite front shock tower with tower guard Heavy-duty V2 routed graphite rear tower, long Heavy-duty V2 rear axle with 67mm bones V2 springs for a more reactive and nimble feel Innovative rear arm with molded inserts for ultra-fine lower shock mount adjustment Molded spur gear guard to help protect body from damage +1 steering block arms optimize feel on dirt tracks Battery strap allows the use of optional turnbuckle-based braces Machined pistons included for better fit and smoother operation Aluminum rear clamping hex and front axle with laser etching Rear hubs feature large bearings and the easy-insert system to adjust camber link position and rear axle height One-piece shock bushing to make assembly easier Aluminum C and D arm mounts included for large range of anti-squat and toe adjustment Lightweight aluminum top shaft Factory Team upgraded ball bearing kit included (now oiled instead of greased for less drag) JConcepts(r) B6 clear body and wing included Shortened, 7075 aluminum chassis Setup Sheets and other documentation Setup sheets for both cars: Piston Drills:
Aftermarket Upgrades: Parts List: Reference Guides (courtesy of Ray Munday and Roger M.): 
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05-21-2019, 05:08 PM
#2806
I like to compare 17.5 to 125 2 stroke races... no room for mistakes, carrying corner speed is everything and more dependent on the rider. Yes it's slower, but not by much and not at all less fun. Don't get me wrong though, mod (and 450 4 strokes) are real cool too and want to try that in the near future.
But back to that B6.1, what an awesome car. I'm running box setup on the local turf track and the thing just does what I ask it to. Been able to turn some fast laps consistently on the first time out and only getting faster as I learn the buggy. I do like smaller LCG batteries better on it though, whereas bigger batteries helped me with steering on the 22 4.0.
My target for this summer is to not touch major setup points on the car (only adjustments on toe, camber, height and whatever is normal maintenance) and see how far I can go. I want to adapt and get as good as I can before having to tune something for my driving style, and it's going great I must say. Just hoping that the B7 doesn't come out soon so I don't regret getting the B6.1 a year after it launched!
But back to that B6.1, what an awesome car. I'm running box setup on the local turf track and the thing just does what I ask it to. Been able to turn some fast laps consistently on the first time out and only getting faster as I learn the buggy. I do like smaller LCG batteries better on it though, whereas bigger batteries helped me with steering on the 22 4.0.
My target for this summer is to not touch major setup points on the car (only adjustments on toe, camber, height and whatever is normal maintenance) and see how far I can go. I want to adapt and get as good as I can before having to tune something for my driving style, and it's going great I must say. Just hoping that the B7 doesn't come out soon so I don't regret getting the B6.1 a year after it launched!
05-22-2019, 03:40 PM
#2808
Yes it does. And tire wear and grip is way higher on average than it was 12 years ago last time I raced. Modern stuff is amazing. I'm glad I skipped the dark ages of brushless motors becoming what they are today haha.
05-23-2019, 01:00 AM
#2810
I noticed most of the guys running the 6.1 (me included) at my local track can’t seem to get the car to land smoothly. I notice my car wants to bounce up no matter how smooth i land. Other guys running different manufacturers seem to get their cars to land like butter. Unbelievably forgiving. Would Kashima shocks help with smoothness? Different springs, pistons, oil? I don’t want to sacrifice handling for better landing, however.
05-23-2019, 10:54 AM
#2812
Tech Addict
I noticed most of the guys running the 6.1 (me included) at my local track can’t seem to get the car to land smoothly. I notice my car wants to bounce up no matter how smooth i land. Other guys running different manufacturers seem to get their cars to land like butter. Unbelievably forgiving. Would Kashima shocks help with smoothness? Different springs, pistons, oil? I don’t want to sacrifice handling for better landing, however.
05-23-2019, 11:05 AM
#2813
05-23-2019, 11:34 AM
#2814
Landing a car smooth takes skill. Not trolling, just saying you control how a car lands. I have seen Rivkin launch his car flat land and never make a sound. Nose first helps, downsiding helps, whipping helps, landing on power helps....and more....Droop, ride height, springs and oil all help. But those thing change other things also.
05-23-2019, 12:27 PM
#2816
I noticed most of the guys running the 6.1 (me included) at my local track can’t seem to get the car to land smoothly. I notice my car wants to bounce up no matter how smooth i land. Other guys running different manufacturers seem to get their cars to land like butter. Unbelievably forgiving. Would Kashima shocks help with smoothness? Different springs, pistons, oil? I don’t want to sacrifice handling for better landing, however.
05-23-2019, 04:37 PM
#2819
Tech Addict
Richard adding a little more shock stroke will help. To me the only things that stick out on the setup sheet that will weaken the landing ability is the 27mm shock stroke, 28.5mm is a good starting point. The further you move the axles up the more it hampers the landing ability, so the shorter shock stroke and raised rear axle combined together will contribute to the bottom out issue. I'd start with just the shock package though as that is most important for jump handling.
Was this setup sheet made for your layout?
Was this setup sheet made for your layout?
05-23-2019, 04:58 PM
#2820
Tech Addict
A few other at our track and I noticed the b6.1 from the box seemed to favor the back end upon landing. What I mean by that is when landing on all 4 wheels the front suspension will stop absorbing the impact first and the rear continues to absorb the rest of the impact. Tried a slew of shock positions, shock lengths, springs, pistons, oils to rebalance this. As we moved the battery all the way forward and switched to the laydown it got much better balance front and rear. Now with the 1.6/1.7 split pistons and 22-23mm shock stroke in the front it lands very balanced and drives great.