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Welcome to the B6.1 and B6.1D Wiki page.





Features:

Easy-access gear differential
Differential height adjustment with 0, 1, 2, and 3mm inserts included
New slipper assembly for better weight balance and shock clearance
3-gear Laydown Stealth(r) transmission for lower and forward CG
Heavy-duty V2 routed graphite front shock tower with tower guard
Heavy-duty V2 routed graphite rear tower, standard height
Heavy-duty V2 rear axle with 67mm bones
V2 springs for a more reactive and nimble feel
Innovative rear arm with molded inserts for ultra-fine lower shock mount adjustment
Molded spur gear guard to help protect body from damage
Front and rear anti-roll bars limit chassis roll for increased corner speed
Battery strap allows the use of optional turnbuckle-based braces
Machined pistons included for better fit and smoother operation
Aluminum rear clamping hex and front axle with laser etching
Rear hubs feature large bearings and the easy-insert system to adjust camber link position and rear axle height
One-piece shock bushing to make assembly easier
Aluminum C and D arm mounts included for large range of anti-squat and toe adjustment
Lightweight aluminum top shaft
Factory Team upgraded ball bearing kit included (now oiled instead of greased for less drag)
JConcepts(r) B6 clear body and wing included
Steel chassis weight
Shortened, 7075 aluminum chassis






Features:

Easy-access ball differential
Differential height adjustment with 0, 1, 2, and 3mm inserts included
New slipper assembly for better weight balance and shock clearance
3-gear Lay Back Stealth(r) transmission for lower and rearward CG
Heavy-duty V2 routed graphite front shock tower with tower guard
Heavy-duty V2 routed graphite rear tower, long
Heavy-duty V2 rear axle with 67mm bones
V2 springs for a more reactive and nimble feel
Innovative rear arm with molded inserts for ultra-fine lower shock mount adjustment
Molded spur gear guard to help protect body from damage
+1 steering block arms optimize feel on dirt tracks
Battery strap allows the use of optional turnbuckle-based braces
Machined pistons included for better fit and smoother operation
Aluminum rear clamping hex and front axle with laser etching
Rear hubs feature large bearings and the easy-insert system to adjust camber link position and rear axle height
One-piece shock bushing to make assembly easier
Aluminum C and D arm mounts included for large range of anti-squat and toe adjustment
Lightweight aluminum top shaft
Factory Team upgraded ball bearing kit included (now oiled instead of greased for less drag)
JConcepts(r) B6 clear body and wing included
Shortened, 7075 aluminum chassis


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Setup sheets for both cars:
Piston Drills:
Aftermarket Upgrades:

Parts List:

Reference Guides (courtesy of Ray Munday):

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Old 02-12-2018, 09:34 AM
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Is it just me or are tracks just going to start catering to the buggies available or are they building to what the tracks want. Basically the new b6.1d is an updated version of the b6! No real options anymore for a buggy that works with lower traction.

That being said looks like my b6 will be looking for a new home after i see a few guys test it out first. It looks like AE made all the right moves.

D1360 - do you plan on updating your first post with all the new pictures/information that AE has released. Would be nice to keep that consistent with what RCBudda has done on the other team associated threads
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D1360 - do you plan on updating your first post with all the new pictures/information that AE has released. Would be nice to keep that consistent with what RCBudda has done on the other team associated threads
This would be nice.
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Originally Posted by TC5Driven View Post
This would be nice.
This is a Wiki thread so it's probably gonna be a communal effort to keep the Wiki at the top of the page updated like what we do for the EB410 thread. No single person is responsible for updating it.
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Anybody happen to know the length of the shock bodies on the 6.1d? I'd like to have some kashima shocks bodies here when my kit arrives.
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Anybody happen to know the length of the shock bodies on the 6.1d? I'd like to have some kashima shocks bodies here when my kit arrives.
The dirt/ball diff version uses the long 31mm shocks in the rear while the carpet/gear diff version uses the short rear bodies.
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I have no doubt this will be a must have car for carpet. But what about people who race clay, who have a nicely built b6?

- Machine pistons, already have.
- Bearing improvement, already upgraded.
- Nice slipper setup, run slipper eliminator
- Spacing options for transmission, b6 already runs at a good level for clay.
- Rear Arm incerts, cool, but can already adjust current arms just fine.

Something I am missing? New Car going to be faster than my current b6?
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Originally Posted by sea1swk View Post
I have no doubt this will be a must have car for carpet. But what about people who race clay, who have a nicely built b6?

- Machine pistons, already have.
- Bearing improvement, already upgraded.
- Nice slipper setup, run slipper eliminator
- Spacing options for transmission, b6 already runs at a good level for clay.
- Rear Arm incerts, cool, but can already adjust current arms just fine.

Something I am missing? New Car going to be faster than my current b6?
I think in the right hands it might be as fast or slightly faster, as the current B6 B6D configurations are still winning national events. But in the hands of a club racer not real sure if people will notice a ton of difference just by getting the newest. I raced in a big race first of January that had a lot of the big name drivers there Cav and Spencer, and and a lot others, I only raced one class mod SCT I only raced in the seeding round with Cav and we was talking while waiting to go up on the stand and someone ask him when a new SCT was coming out, and my brother said there is no real need for a new truck with Cav pretty much dominating that class in the SC5M, and he agreed which is kind of true. We had a couple days of controlled practice and Cav practed every round in all the buggy classes he was running and not once in the SCT till the first qual and he set TQ if I remember right. So to me unless your one of the guys who has to have the newest and greatest weather you notice a improvement or not, I would believe a set up B6 or B6D would still be competitive in the right hands.
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Originally Posted by Braxamus View Post
I would believe a set up B6 or B6D would still be competitive in the right hands.
I believe a well set up B5r would be competitive in the right hands. I may be putting that to the test if I can sell my current B6 easily!
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There was a guy at the local track a few weeks ago that got in the a main with a xxx buggy. I don't really see the upgrades making the new buggies faster but some of the features will be nice to have.
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Originally Posted by olds45512 View Post
There was a guy at the local track a few weeks ago that got in the a main with a xxx buggy. I don't really see the upgrades making the new buggies faster but some of the features will be nice to have.
You don't have to be fast just hang out with slower drivers
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I like what they have done with it! All looks to be improvements and not changes for the simple fact of changing it! Also, how can you compare it to a 22 4.0??? If anything I think that there copying AE more than AE is copying them and a step behind in the evolutionary scheme of things. They may have had the upper hand for a little while with the 4.0 but even that is debatable depending on who you ask. Any way you look at it, the 6.1 definitely ups or evens things out at the very worst in the current war with TLR!
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I believe a well set up B5r would be competitive in the right hands. I may be putting that to the test if I can sell my current B6 easily!
Esp on large out door blown out 1/8 tracks.
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Originally Posted by sea1swk View Post
I have no doubt this will be a must have car for carpet. But what about people who race clay, who have a nicely built b6?

- Machine pistons, already have.
- Bearing improvement, already upgraded.
- Nice slipper setup, run slipper eliminator
- Spacing options for transmission, b6 already runs at a good level for clay.
- Rear Arm incerts, cool, but can already adjust current arms just fine.

Something I am missing? New Car going to be faster than my current b6?
While I am sure that the B6 will continue to be a great car, I am also positive that the more rearward motor position and shorter chassis of the 6.1D will help a lot when the grip is less than perfect. Whatever the case, nobody will be forced at gunpoint to buy the latest version.
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Originally Posted by MX304 View Post
I'm guessing they are something along the lines of Yatabe springs, or Yokomo's RP springs.
Can someone educate me on *how* exactly a helicoidal spring feels different from another helicoidal spring that has the same stifness (k - sorry, not sure about the name in English)?

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Can someone educate me on *how* exactly a helicoidal spring feels different from another helicoidal spring that has the same stifness (k - sorry, not sure about the name in English)?

thanks,
Paul
The wire diameter, spring diameter, spring length, and coil spacing will dictate the characteristics of the spring. Because of this, it is possible for two springs to have the same (or very close to the same) theoretical rate, yet feel different on track. I wonder if the V2 springs are just because AE had to change vendors for their springs?
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