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Features:

Easy-access gear differential
Differential height adjustment with 0, 1, 2, and 3mm inserts included
New slipper assembly for better weight balance and shock clearance
3-gear Laydown Stealth(r) transmission for lower and forward CG
Heavy-duty V2 routed graphite front shock tower with tower guard
Heavy-duty V2 routed graphite rear tower, standard height
Heavy-duty V2 rear axle with 67mm bones
V2 springs for a more reactive and nimble feel
Innovative rear arm with molded inserts for ultra-fine lower shock mount adjustment
Molded spur gear guard to help protect body from damage
Front and rear anti-roll bars limit chassis roll for increased corner speed
Battery strap allows the use of optional turnbuckle-based braces
Machined pistons included for better fit and smoother operation
Aluminum rear clamping hex and front axle with laser etching
Rear hubs feature large bearings and the easy-insert system to adjust camber link position and rear axle height
One-piece shock bushing to make assembly easier
Aluminum C and D arm mounts included for large range of anti-squat and toe adjustment
Lightweight aluminum top shaft
Factory Team upgraded ball bearing kit included (now oiled instead of greased for less drag)
JConcepts(r) B6 clear body and wing included
Steel chassis weight
Shortened, 7075 aluminum chassis






Features:

Easy-access ball differential
Differential height adjustment with 0, 1, 2, and 3mm inserts included
New slipper assembly for better weight balance and shock clearance
3-gear Lay Back Stealth(r) transmission for lower and rearward CG
Heavy-duty V2 routed graphite front shock tower with tower guard
Heavy-duty V2 routed graphite rear tower, long
Heavy-duty V2 rear axle with 67mm bones
V2 springs for a more reactive and nimble feel
Innovative rear arm with molded inserts for ultra-fine lower shock mount adjustment
Molded spur gear guard to help protect body from damage
+1 steering block arms optimize feel on dirt tracks
Battery strap allows the use of optional turnbuckle-based braces
Machined pistons included for better fit and smoother operation
Aluminum rear clamping hex and front axle with laser etching
Rear hubs feature large bearings and the easy-insert system to adjust camber link position and rear axle height
One-piece shock bushing to make assembly easier
Aluminum C and D arm mounts included for large range of anti-squat and toe adjustment
Lightweight aluminum top shaft
Factory Team upgraded ball bearing kit included (now oiled instead of greased for less drag)
JConcepts(r) B6 clear body and wing included
Shortened, 7075 aluminum chassis


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Piston Drills:
Aftermarket Upgrades:

Parts List:

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Old 02-10-2018, 08:14 PM
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What the heck are V2 springs?
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What the heck are V2 springs?
From Associated's website..."V2 springs for a more reactive and nimble feel".
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What the heck are V2 springs?
I'm guessing they are something along the lines of Yatabe springs, or Yokomo's RP springs.
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What the heck are V2 springs?
Just one more thing i now feel pressured to buy...
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Just one more thing i now feel pressured to buy...
Me too...
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Looks like a bad imitation of a 22 4.0.
I've built and owned lots of AE cars and have just finished building a 22 4.0.
Blown away.
AE could at least design a car that has some origional thinking and engineering involved, like Schumacher or Hot Bodies, but then, if you're going to copy something, you might as well copy the best.
The quick access to the diff is cool, but open the diff and it looks like something out of a Tamiya Astute.
TLR's planetary gear diff is beyond comparison to the AE part.
The 4.0 ball diff is the best ball diff I've ever built and I've built lots.
Don't waste your money, just go buy a 22 4.0.
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Originally Posted by FasterLouder View Post
Looks like a bad imitation of a 22 4.0.
I've built and owned lots of AE cars and have just finished building a 22 4.0.
Blown away.
AE could at least design a car that has some origional thinking and engineering involved, like Schumacher or Hot Bodies, but then, if you're going to copy something, you might as well copy the best.
The quick access to the diff is cool, but open the diff and it looks like something out of a Tamiya Astute.
TLR's planetary gear diff is beyond comparison to the AE part.
The 4.0 ball diff is the best ball diff I've ever built and I've built lots.
Don't waste your money, just go buy a 22 4.0.
As somebody not biased towards AE I beg to disagree on the bad imitation rant. This car has many interesting features that may have been seen before on other makes, but it is the first to combine it an one package. Until I gave it to my son recently I raced a YZ-2 (my second one), my current ride is a 22T 4.0 (which I like a lot), and in the last couple of years I also had Kyosho and Xray. My last couple of AE rides were of the fifth generation, so I guess I don't count as a anboy.
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Originally Posted by FasterLouder View Post
Looks like a bad imitation of a 22 4.0.
I've built and owned lots of AE cars and have just finished building a 22 4.0.
Blown away.
AE could at least design a car that has some origional thinking and engineering involved, like Schumacher or Hot Bodies, but then, if you're going to copy something, you might as well copy the best.
The quick access to the diff is cool, but open the diff and it looks like something out of a Tamiya Astute.
TLR's planetary gear diff is beyond comparison to the AE part.
The 4.0 ball diff is the best ball diff I've ever built and I've built lots.
Don't waste your money, just go buy a 22 4.0.
That's a pretty impressive rant about a car you haven't seen or built and going on and on about how awesome a car is just because of how it built. I think the thread you were looking for is 22 4.0 thread
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The quick access to the diff is cool, but open the diff and it looks like something out of a Tamiya Astute.
The astute had a ball diff...

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Definitely interested in this. I have a B5M and glad I waited. It will be fun to compare them. Looks like the end of March before this is available. I hope they beefed up the ball diff and increased the size of that small screw that runs through it.
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Will the B6/B6D wheels fit the B6.1/B6.1D vehicle

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With the B6/B6D wheels fit the B6.1/B6.1D vehicles?
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With so many component changes between the B6 and B6.1 chassis and the new V2 springs, the setup sheets will vary significantly between the two versions. So, I agree with the need for two separate strings.

Honestly, I would have called the new car a B7...which should have resulted in a new string anyway.
I'm perfectly OK with having a new thread for a new kit for these reasons.

Let's also try to keep the discussion about the new car, and not clutter up the first 50 pages of the thread with endless discussion about Tower Cash and penny pinching like the B6 thread, all of this discussion becomes worthless in a month when the kit is more widely available.

If you have some information about availability in your part of the world, feel free to share it, but I'm going to be deleting any posts along the lines of "I AM GOING TO GET MINE FROM XXX HOBBIES" that do not add any value to the discussion here.
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Is this the new diff?


appears so or they did cost reducing measure by getting rid of the two metal cross pins and subbed in the plastic X-cross. not saying btw this makes it cheap/inderior but done for lighter weight, steel outdrives look like they went on a diet too
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appears so or they did cost reducing measure by getting rid of the two metal cross pins and subbed in the plastic X-cross. not saying btw this makes it cheap/inderior but done for lighter weight, steel outdrives look like they went on a diet too
I would agree. I don't think they did it to be cheap, it is most likely for weight savings.
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