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Features:

Easy-access gear differential
Differential height adjustment with 0, 1, 2, and 3mm inserts included
New slipper assembly for better weight balance and shock clearance
3-gear Laydown Stealth(r) transmission for lower and forward CG
Heavy-duty V2 routed graphite front shock tower with tower guard
Heavy-duty V2 routed graphite rear tower, standard height
Heavy-duty V2 rear axle with 67mm bones
V2 springs for a more reactive and nimble feel
Innovative rear arm with molded inserts for ultra-fine lower shock mount adjustment
Molded spur gear guard to help protect body from damage
Front and rear anti-roll bars limit chassis roll for increased corner speed
Battery strap allows the use of optional turnbuckle-based braces
Machined pistons included for better fit and smoother operation
Aluminum rear clamping hex and front axle with laser etching
Rear hubs feature large bearings and the easy-insert system to adjust camber link position and rear axle height
One-piece shock bushing to make assembly easier
Aluminum C and D arm mounts included for large range of anti-squat and toe adjustment
Lightweight aluminum top shaft
Factory Team upgraded ball bearing kit included (now oiled instead of greased for less drag)
JConcepts(r) B6 clear body and wing included
Steel chassis weight
Shortened, 7075 aluminum chassis






Features:

Easy-access ball differential
Differential height adjustment with 0, 1, 2, and 3mm inserts included
New slipper assembly for better weight balance and shock clearance
3-gear Lay Back Stealth(r) transmission for lower and rearward CG
Heavy-duty V2 routed graphite front shock tower with tower guard
Heavy-duty V2 routed graphite rear tower, long
Heavy-duty V2 rear axle with 67mm bones
V2 springs for a more reactive and nimble feel
Innovative rear arm with molded inserts for ultra-fine lower shock mount adjustment
Molded spur gear guard to help protect body from damage
+1 steering block arms optimize feel on dirt tracks
Battery strap allows the use of optional turnbuckle-based braces
Machined pistons included for better fit and smoother operation
Aluminum rear clamping hex and front axle with laser etching
Rear hubs feature large bearings and the easy-insert system to adjust camber link position and rear axle height
One-piece shock bushing to make assembly easier
Aluminum C and D arm mounts included for large range of anti-squat and toe adjustment
Lightweight aluminum top shaft
Factory Team upgraded ball bearing kit included (now oiled instead of greased for less drag)
JConcepts(r) B6 clear body and wing included
Shortened, 7075 aluminum chassis


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Piston Drills:
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Old 05-16-2019, 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by dickie doyle View Post


32.5f
30r
looks right. Did you try changing the roll center

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Our track is running 21.5 this weekend . Anyone have a good gearing setup for a med/large indoor high grip clay track?
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Originally Posted by socalcloin View Post
Is anyone running this car in a 21.5T spec class on clay? Seems the local track is pushing for that to be the new sportsman motor. I run mine box stock above the ROAR weight minimum with a 17.5T s-plus (non torque version) and it is fine.

What would be the lowest cost upgrade to help with the loss of power, Slipper delete?

Edit - my vote would be to stay 17.5T sportsman class but I dont race often so my vote doesnt really count... so just buying a 21.5T motor would not be that big of a deal I guess.
I run my 21.5 car right at 1500 grams. I do think the pucks/light weight diff options are very helpful. If you need to add weight, use battery weights. I also really liked the laydown for more corner speed in 21.5
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Originally Posted by carver gt View Post
Our track is running 21.5 this weekend . Anyone have a good gearing setup for a med/large indoor high grip clay track?
we run locked timing 21.5 motors so it would be different. 72/33 is what we run with the Hobbywing and muchmore 21.5 motors. SDRC is using the reedy s+ torque motors, so I cant be 100% sure, but I would start with 2 teeth more than your 17.5 splus torque motor
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Originally Posted by Wildcat1971 View Post
we run locked timing 21.5 motors so it would be different. 72/33 is what we run with the Hobbywing and muchmore 21.5 motors. SDRC is using the reedy s+ torque motors, so I cant be 100% sure, but I would start with 2 teeth more than your 17.5 splus torque motor
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i drilled rears from 3x1.4 to 3x1.5
I drill different sizes of holes in one piston.... pretty awesome.
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Any of the tracks out there running 21.5 for 2wd in outtdoor dirt wet track (just curious) .... I think that would be really slow since it doesn't have a ton of traction.
It works for on road (carpet/asphalt) .... but I doubt it in dirt off road.
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Originally Posted by Phillip F View Post
Any of the tracks out there running 21.5 for 2wd in outtdoor dirt wet track (just curious) .... I think that would be really slow since it doesn't have a ton of traction.
It works for on road (carpet/asphalt) .... but I doubt it in dirt off road.
Iím not getting your question. If traction is low, a faster motor would be less manageable.

Iíve seen some video of 21.5 running off road, indoor. It looked slow. About as fast as the old 27T brushed motors used to be, maybe a little slower, which probably isnít a bad thing. 17.5 is pretty fast for a ďstockĒ class.
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Iím not getting your question. If traction is low, a faster motor would be less manageable.

Iíve seen some video of 21.5 running off road, indoor. It looked slow. About as fast as the old 27T brushed motors used to be, maybe a little slower, which probably isnít a bad thing. 17.5 is pretty fast for a ďstockĒ class.
21.5 is about like the old 27t for sure. It is fine as a class. If you want to go "fast" go mod lol. 17.5 is more like amateur mod these days
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Originally Posted by Wildcat1971 View Post
21.5 is about like the old 27t for sure. It is fine as a class. If you want to go "fast" go mod lol. 17.5 is more like amateur mod these days
I wish .... Mod 2wd is non existent especially at Hot Rod Hobbies
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I wish .... Mod 2wd is non existent especially at Hot Rod Hobbies
Mod barely exists anywhere for club racing. Grip level, car wear and tire wear keep many away. I like to run mod once in a while, but the grip level is not all that high at my local track, so I prefer 17.5 in 2wd and 4wd mod/13.5.
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Originally Posted by Wildcat1971 View Post
Mod barely exists anywhere for club racing. Grip level, car wear and tire wear keep many away. I like to run mod once in a while, but the grip level is not all that high at my local track, so I prefer 17.5 in 2wd and 4wd mod/13.5.
That is interesting. We have no stock class what so ever. Havn't in 20+ yrs. Maybe for a big race but otherwise mod only. Tire wear and car wear mod or stock is no different on our tracks. One set of tires last all 5-6 months.
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Originally Posted by Chris Reilly View Post
That is interesting. We have no stock class what so ever. Havn't in 20+ yrs. Maybe for a big race but otherwise mod only. Tire wear and car wear mod or stock is no different on our tracks. One set of tires last all 5-6 months.
Stock is mostly a US thing. I think it is smaller else where. Mod wears out the outdrives and tires faster normally. With a lighter finger and slipper things last longer.
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I think these newer 17.5's need an asterix by them. They're as fast as an older 13.5 or even some 10.5's!
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Originally Posted by Wildcat1971 View Post
Stock is mostly a US thing. I think it is smaller else where. Mod wears out the outdrives and tires faster normally. With a lighter finger and slipper things last longer.
I race in the USA only. I find almost no difference in wear in the last 25 yrs. I do the same maintenance anyways.
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