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Features:

Easy-access gear differential
Differential height adjustment with 0, 1, 2, and 3mm inserts included
New slipper assembly for better weight balance and shock clearance
3-gear Laydown Stealth(r) transmission for lower and forward CG
Heavy-duty V2 routed graphite front shock tower with tower guard
Heavy-duty V2 routed graphite rear tower, standard height
Heavy-duty V2 rear axle with 67mm bones
V2 springs for a more reactive and nimble feel
Innovative rear arm with molded inserts for ultra-fine lower shock mount adjustment
Molded spur gear guard to help protect body from damage
Front and rear anti-roll bars limit chassis roll for increased corner speed
Battery strap allows the use of optional turnbuckle-based braces
Machined pistons included for better fit and smoother operation
Aluminum rear clamping hex and front axle with laser etching
Rear hubs feature large bearings and the easy-insert system to adjust camber link position and rear axle height
One-piece shock bushing to make assembly easier
Aluminum C and D arm mounts included for large range of anti-squat and toe adjustment
Lightweight aluminum top shaft
Factory Team upgraded ball bearing kit included (now oiled instead of greased for less drag)
JConcepts(r) B6 clear body and wing included
Steel chassis weight
Shortened, 7075 aluminum chassis






Features:

Easy-access ball differential
Differential height adjustment with 0, 1, 2, and 3mm inserts included
New slipper assembly for better weight balance and shock clearance
3-gear Lay Back Stealth(r) transmission for lower and rearward CG
Heavy-duty V2 routed graphite front shock tower with tower guard
Heavy-duty V2 routed graphite rear tower, long
Heavy-duty V2 rear axle with 67mm bones
V2 springs for a more reactive and nimble feel
Innovative rear arm with molded inserts for ultra-fine lower shock mount adjustment
Molded spur gear guard to help protect body from damage
+1 steering block arms optimize feel on dirt tracks
Battery strap allows the use of optional turnbuckle-based braces
Machined pistons included for better fit and smoother operation
Aluminum rear clamping hex and front axle with laser etching
Rear hubs feature large bearings and the easy-insert system to adjust camber link position and rear axle height
One-piece shock bushing to make assembly easier
Aluminum C and D arm mounts included for large range of anti-squat and toe adjustment
Lightweight aluminum top shaft
Factory Team upgraded ball bearing kit included (now oiled instead of greased for less drag)
JConcepts(r) B6 clear body and wing included
Shortened, 7075 aluminum chassis


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Setup sheets for both cars:
Piston Drills:
Aftermarket Upgrades:

Parts List:

Reference Guides (courtesy of Ray Munday and Roger M.):

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Old 05-08-2019, 07:25 AM
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In your opinion, is that a deceptive practice?
Not at all. Good business strategy is what it is. It gives everyone a choice.
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For Decades, AE has had a model of releasing a new car and then following that release with Factory Team versions (Graphite titanium, etc... included), this has grown recently to releasing application specific cars with all the mods needed for your application in the box (saving you from buying the kit and then all the "needed" parts for your track, which can exceed $100).

It is a good strategy both for them as the manufacturer and us the consumer.
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Gear Diff- Decrease Weight of Rotating Mass

What can one do to reduce the rotating mass on a laydown gearbox?
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Gear Diff- Decrease Weight of Rotating Mass

What can one do to reduce the rotating mass on a laydown gearbox?
Are you racing stock or mod? Clay or carpet?
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Originally Posted by dowj28
Not at all. Good business strategy is what it is. It gives everyone a choice.
I veiw this as a change similar to the way they gradually updated the B4 kit. There were a couple of small revs to the parts included (mostly spring rates) that kept the boxed kit closer to the setups that people were running so fewer parts needed to be bought after the fact. This "L" car looks like an incremental update. I could easily see the "D" kit being discontinued.

Again, does anybody run the V2 springs in 2wd, though?
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Originally Posted by trf211
Are you racing stock or mod? Clay or carpet?
Stock Indoor Medium to High Bite Clay
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Again, does anybody run the V2 springs in 2wd, though?
As a spring collector, I think that the V2 springs are great on high grip surfaces also for 2WD buggies, but on lower grip I'd probably go to my trusty Avid spring set. My gripe with the old AE big bore springs was poor QC and matching. On very smooth tracks (carpet) I'd also check Racing Performer various fronts andorange rears and compare them to the AE V2s.
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Originally Posted by dowj28
Stock Indoor Medium to High Bite Clay
Cut gears, bearings and pucks will make the most significant drop in driveline weight and minimize drag. Ti slipper shaft, Ti cvd barrels, and lightweight axles if you really want to go all out. It's also a good idea to weigh what rims and tires are available to you, sometimes you can cut more rotating mass just by using a different rim/tire combo.
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MIP also has the super diff/aluminum dogbone as well, if you want to run a ball diff/cva combo
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Newbie question here. Why would you use weights under the servo or electronics on b6.1? Thank you in advance!
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Originally Posted by chajnik
Newbie question here. Why would you use weights under the servo or electronics on b6.1? Thank you in advance!
Sometimes you need to add weight to make class weight, or to settle the buggy down as a tuning aid (add grip to front or rear), and when you do that it's usually best to put it as low as possible on the chassis to keep the centre of gravity as low as possible. Under the electronics or servo are a couple of places you can do that. There are also other ways to add weight such as using the brass C/D or front blocks too.
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Originally Posted by v0rtex
Sometimes you need to add weight to make class weight, or to settle the buggy down as a tuning aid (add grip to front or rear), and when you do that it's usually best to put it as low as possible on the chassis to keep the centre of gravity as low as possible. Under the electronics or servo are a couple of places you can do that. There are also other ways to add weight such as using the brass C/D or front blocks too.
Thank you! Would it be true that adding weight under servo will give more steering, while under electronics provide more rotation as it cliser to the center of gravity?
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Originally Posted by chajnik
Thank you! Would it be true that adding weight under servo will give more steering, while under electronics provide more rotation as it cliser to the center of gravity?
You will never know once you try it... it really depend on your driving style... weights are cheap and are good tuning aid.
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Thank you! Would it be true that adding weight under servo will give more steering, while under electronics provide more rotation as it cliser to the center of gravity?
Thank you
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Iíve found this asked in this thread with no replies, but has anyone tried Vision Racing Products shock pistons in their B6.1? My local track is misted, damp indoor clay, but it ends up being very high bite (slicks or primes) with lots of small divots and bumps. Iím thinking I could thicken up the oil to avoid rolling, but maintain grip with the rebound being fast. Any experience?
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