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Features:

Easy-access gear differential
Differential height adjustment with 0, 1, 2, and 3mm inserts included
New slipper assembly for better weight balance and shock clearance
3-gear Laydown Stealth(r) transmission for lower and forward CG
Heavy-duty V2 routed graphite front shock tower with tower guard
Heavy-duty V2 routed graphite rear tower, standard height
Heavy-duty V2 rear axle with 67mm bones
V2 springs for a more reactive and nimble feel
Innovative rear arm with molded inserts for ultra-fine lower shock mount adjustment
Molded spur gear guard to help protect body from damage
Front and rear anti-roll bars limit chassis roll for increased corner speed
Battery strap allows the use of optional turnbuckle-based braces
Machined pistons included for better fit and smoother operation
Aluminum rear clamping hex and front axle with laser etching
Rear hubs feature large bearings and the easy-insert system to adjust camber link position and rear axle height
One-piece shock bushing to make assembly easier
Aluminum C and D arm mounts included for large range of anti-squat and toe adjustment
Lightweight aluminum top shaft
Factory Team upgraded ball bearing kit included (now oiled instead of greased for less drag)
JConcepts(r) B6 clear body and wing included
Steel chassis weight
Shortened, 7075 aluminum chassis






Features:

Easy-access ball differential
Differential height adjustment with 0, 1, 2, and 3mm inserts included
New slipper assembly for better weight balance and shock clearance
3-gear Lay Back Stealth(r) transmission for lower and rearward CG
Heavy-duty V2 routed graphite front shock tower with tower guard
Heavy-duty V2 routed graphite rear tower, long
Heavy-duty V2 rear axle with 67mm bones
V2 springs for a more reactive and nimble feel
Innovative rear arm with molded inserts for ultra-fine lower shock mount adjustment
Molded spur gear guard to help protect body from damage
+1 steering block arms optimize feel on dirt tracks
Battery strap allows the use of optional turnbuckle-based braces
Machined pistons included for better fit and smoother operation
Aluminum rear clamping hex and front axle with laser etching
Rear hubs feature large bearings and the easy-insert system to adjust camber link position and rear axle height
One-piece shock bushing to make assembly easier
Aluminum C and D arm mounts included for large range of anti-squat and toe adjustment
Lightweight aluminum top shaft
Factory Team upgraded ball bearing kit included (now oiled instead of greased for less drag)
JConcepts(r) B6 clear body and wing included
Shortened, 7075 aluminum chassis


Setup Sheets and other documentation
Setup sheets for both cars:
Piston Drills:
Aftermarket Upgrades:

Parts List:

Reference Guides (courtesy of Ray Munday):

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Old 07-24-2018, 08:59 AM
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Would you be able to do enough with setup and tire changes to still make the lay back transmission on the 6.1D work well on very low grip? Or is the standup transmission necessary to make the car handle well?
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Originally Posted by mrmatt47 View Post
Forgot to add that the track has varying conditions. Some times it gets loose and sometimes it is tight. Dont know why it just is. Same conditions and prep two days will result in different results
i believe that is just the nature of it . So many things to chase looking for a good tune but that makes it fun. we get a blue groove then they add water and its like driving on slick oil. Lol

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Any word on when the B6.2 is going to be announced.
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Originally Posted by lowdoughracer View Post
Would you be able to do enough with setup and tire changes to still make the lay back transmission on the 6.1D work well on very low grip? Or is the standup transmission necessary to make the car handle well?
may not work best but you can make it work. The last race i had on very low grip with my b6 i finished 1st. Laydown and gear diff. Added some weight strips near mount C and D (20g and 10g). You can also check Ray Mundays setup guide.
if you are only racing on dirt i would get standup transmission
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Does anyone have an update running without the waterfall?
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Originally Posted by rvrslt1 View Post
Does anyone have an update running without the waterfall?
Seems fine. I removed mine. No bending and still seems plenty stiff. A little more consistent and rear grip. IMO
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Originally Posted by Lone Drifter View Post
Any word on when the B6.2 is going to be announced.
This is not TLR lol.
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Any word on when the B6.2 is going to be announced.
2 weeks
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Does anyone have an update running without the waterfall?
Most of us at OCRC are not running the waterfall. I took out the top screw and it allows it to flex a little better for greater traction in the rear.
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Most of us at OCRC are not running the waterfall. I took out the top screw and it allows it to flex a little better for greater traction in the rear.
thanks for the info Kevin. I will give it a try.
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What is the pivot position for the c/d pills on the tuning sheet and what does it effect? I know what anti squat, toe and roll center are just cant find anything on the pivot position.

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What is the pivot position for the c/d pills on the tuning sheet and what does it effect? I know what anti squat, toe and roll center are just cant find anything on the pivot position.

Check pilla position calculator on this page. I believe what your asking affects roll centers. Move position around on spreadsheet and it willsay wether high or low roll center.
http://site.petitrc.com/setup/associated/SetupSheetsAssociatedRC10B6.html

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Hi mates,
from the beginning my transmission isn't completly free
i checked many things (diff height spacers, screw size, gearbox thightness ...)
i also switch the idler gear from my B6 (and the diff as well)
... the only way to get it completly free is to use the n4 diff height spacer
other than that there's a hard point and/or a too tight gear mesh

is it normal ? do i have to grind it to get it free with the n2 spacer ?
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Originally Posted by 5tone View Post
Hi mates,
from the beginning my transmission isn't completly free
i checked many things (diff height spacers, screw size, gearbox thightness ...)
i also switch the idler gear from my B6 (and the diff as well)
... the only way to get it completly free is to use the n4 diff height spacer
other than that there's a hard point and/or a too tight gear mesh

is it normal ? do i have to grind it to get it free with the n2 spacer ?
The 4 screws that hold the gear diff together rub the pill spacer... Check that.

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Originally Posted by bobf24 View Post
I think half the problem people have with ball diffs is the "modern" recommended build procedure. I still build them the way it was recommended 20 years ago and a stock AE ball diff running on outdoor dirt will last me all summer and still be smooth at the end of the season. I ran a ball diff on indoor carpet with slick tires in buggy and stadium truck this winter and they would last me 3 or 4 race days and 3 or 4 practice days before they needed to be rebuilt. I personally hate the way a gear diff feels even on carpet.
Care to share you diff building procedure?
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