james v

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Setup s for 22 5.0 elite buggy shassy rear hubs , stock 4.0 , 45.0 rear shocks/41.5 front, 13.5 motor any setups ??

loganslosi

How hard was it?

Mustrum

Any chance to see a 22T 5.0 or 6.0 soon?

thecman26

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Two weeks

Frank Root

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No, not in the near future.

mes

As much as I don't like the answer, I really appreciate your reply, Frank! Time to stop holding my breath for a new TLR truck, I guess...

TurnNBurn

Dakotah just TQ’d and placed 2nd with the truck at the Nats; why would they need a new truck?

I get it, though. I personally would be more inclined to buy a 22T if it meant there were more parts to share between it and my 22 5.0… and it would be nice if it had all the nice features of the 5.0, but at the end of the day, it comes down to whether the amount needed to invest in making that happen would actually result in the sales of more 22T’s, and hence a decent ROI. I’m gonna guess that it wouldn’t be likely, so Horizon probably wouldn’t be likely to make that investment.

Mustrum

I also fear Horizon Hobby don’t want to invest many more money in TLR and in hobby racing, I think they want to become even bigger on bashing and recreative r/c with arma for instance.

TurnNBurn

That would contradict the effort to formally hire Jr. as a consultant, though. Anyway, I can see their need to be mindful of ROI, especially considering current pressures on the market that recently forced them to drive up prices. Add to the fact that TLR is pretty much the only manufacturer in the category of competition off-road that is backed by a US company. It’s likely the difference as to why a company like Associated can make those decisions, when their parent company is also likely their manufacturer, and thus can better manage costs that way.

mes

I am not sure if there is a huge difference between ordering the 4.0 style hangers (which they decided not to include in the DC Roller for reasons that seem not to apply to the AC and truck kits IF they are restocking these without any changes) or the Elite ones, but in the end the only thing that matters is if there is a new kit or not. AE stated that introducing the 6.3 did not cost them more than to restock 6.2 kits, but their situation might be different. As Frank Root told us, there would not be a new truck kit anytime soon, the case is closed for me... He did not say anything about a new 2WD, though, so there is something else to hold my breath for! :P

Rcdad42

Based upon converting a 4.0 to use the 5.0 steering, tlr would only have to redo 4 parts. The front tower, the chassis, and the two side guards. The ROI would easily be surpassed by the new interest in the truck, and most of the parts being reused from previous trucks

mes

I would assume that they prepared the required cad files years ago, but relatively low demand and other projects got in the way. Gil Losi Jr mentioned in a video that he joined forces with the design team in the final stages of the 22X-4, a project that was delayed by some issues. I'd not be surprised if they have made major improvements meanwhile and decided not to beat on a dead horse and start from a blank sheet for all the 2WD platforms. When the DC Roller was released with the Elite suspension parts, it seemed that they had abandoned the brownish parts for good and clearing stocks with an economic car for race beginners... Long story short, I'd not be surprised to see something entirely new before long. If this is the case, it would not make any sense to focus on an updated kit based on a still successful but outdated design if people keep buying the one that is available or can be restocked without a huge effort. Pure speculation on my part, though.

RazorRC

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This seems like a really good guess to me.

jlett21

I'm still hopefully for a vintage release of some kind.

Frank Root

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Truck and SCT sales just aren't what they used to be. 4wd buggies becoming durable, and the 13.5 4wd class emergence has really taken the place as the 2nd class for the vast majority of racers. Truck and SCT sales are not as strong as they used to be. You see it with less frequent releases from us and AE, and even from JC, PL, and AKA on the tire side of things. They aren't going away, but they won't get the same love as buggies unless/until the landscape changes. That's just a reality.

Absolutely 100% not true. TLR isn't going anywhere, we're always working on new stuff. We just tooled new 1/8 vehicles (8X) and the 22X-4 within the last couple of years, and signed a high profile driver (Cav) for multiple years. We also continue to attend all major races with a strong team. That should be more than enough proof that your fears are incorrect, but I'll refute them all day as well.

It's more than those parts alone.

We do not still have the molds for any of those "vintage" vehicles, so we'd have to tool them from scratch. That's a tougher proposition.