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Old 11-02-2017, 06:47 PM
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Have one pre ordered already.
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AE is really far behind now. Sucks for AE guys having to buy 2 kits and 125.00 aftermarket kit to be able to run a laydown w/ a up to date front end.
*never mind, thought I was in the buggy thread.
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Old 11-02-2017, 08:41 PM
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We've got a bit of outdoor running this year with 2wd vehicles and find that laydown is better outdoors, even when the grip is low. They handle bumps better, jump and land better, and have a more natural steering balance. Due to this, you don't get the car loose to steer it as much and you just go faster by maintaining grip.
Is this the same for the 22 4.0? I was running laydown but switched to standup at the advice from some guys at my club.
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I knew it would be coming out soon and that's why I didn't buy the 3.0
What else is coming out? I need to know🤔
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Old 11-02-2017, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Frank Root View Post
We've got a bit of outdoor running this year with 2wd vehicles and find that laydown is better outdoors, even when the grip is low. They handle bumps better, jump and land better, and have a more natural steering balance. Due to this, you don't get the car loose to steer it as much and you just go faster by maintaining grip.
So if the laydown is also good for low traction, when is it idea to use the standup?

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Old 11-02-2017, 09:51 PM
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So if the laydown is also good for low traction, what is it idea to use the standup?
I'm wondering the same thing.
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Originally Posted by stuffandthat View Post
Is this the same for the 22 4.0? I was running laydown but switched to standup at the advice from some guys at my club.
Yes this would be the same for the 22 4.0. Essentially, I think the standup transmission will still have its place when running on low bite for now as that is what most are accustomed to. It gives that extra grip while on power especially in loose conditions. However, I found myself preferring laydown at my local outdoor low bite track for the same reasons Frank previously mentioned. The buggy felt more balanced during cornering, handled bumps better, and just naturally jumped and landed better.
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Old 11-02-2017, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by stuffandthat View Post
Is this the same for the 22 4.0? I was running laydown but switched to standup at the advice from some guys at my club.
Yes, same for the 22 4.0 buggy.

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So if the laydown is also good for low traction, when is it idea to use the standup?
Those situations are becoming rarer. The last two releases we've had (22 4.0 SR and 22T 4.0) are both laydown only. We still offer the stand up for $35, but were able to reduce kit prices by removing those parts, which is better for most customers at this point - we believe.
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Old 11-02-2017, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Team Pink View Post
Yes this would be the same for the 22 4.0. Essentially, I think the standup transmission will still have its place when running on low bite for now as that is what most are accustomed to. It gives that extra grip while on power especially in loose conditions. However, I found myself preferring laydown at my local outdoor low bite track for the same reasons Frank previously mentioned. The buggy felt more balanced during cornering, handled bumps better, and just naturally jumped and landed better.
I just did the same thing with my buggy and put the standup back in it. I really liked the laydown this summer but was told it wouldn't work as good in winter.

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I just did the same thing with my buggy and put the standup back in it. I really liked the laydown this summer but was told it wouldn't work as good in winter.
Pretty much what I've just done. Some guys said laydown was no good, went to stand up. Went to another club the next week they said laydown was better for that track. I have my diff out and apart right now so I might just go back to laydown. My main track I race on is quite dusty and loose, and the other is fairly hard packed.
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I have to be honest that I feel burned by this one. I have barely had the 3.0 for a year now and there is already a new model???

So any idea what it will take to convert a 3.0 or should I just sell it now???
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I have to be honest that I feel burned by this one. I have barely had the 3.0 for a year now and there is already a new model???

So any idea what it will take to convert a 3.0 or should I just sell it now???
Price is probably too high to justify upgrading all the parts vs price of a new kit.
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Price is probably too high to justify upgrading all the parts vs price of a new kit.
I can see that since the lay down kit is $80
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Old 11-03-2017, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by caioz1jp View Post
I have to be honest that I feel burned by this one. I have barely had the 3.0 for a year now and there is already a new model???
This has been very typical for releases with racing-focused cars. A new model once a year (or about once a year; give-or-take a few months) is to be expected anymore. I'd expect a new TLR 2WD buggy probably sometime in late winter or early spring.
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Old 11-03-2017, 01:58 PM
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Ya so pre order $329 for the NEW 22T 4.0 arrives December 6. Or you can back order a 3.0 for $349. Arrives December 15. Kind of a no brainer here.
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