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Old 05-13-2017, 11:46 AM
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I have a Rc4wd D90 and an Ascender. I am looking for another trail truck for my daughter. We are considering the Gmade Sawback or Komodo. I never really driven a leaf spring truck before. I am thinking the 4LS might be easier to drive. Thoughts?
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The leaf spring will behave very different then the 4LS you don't have as much flexing like the 4LS. I have both the Sawback and Komodo. I just got into crawling and I like both. I have a small creek in my back yard and they both do very well on the rocks and water. So it's a matter of preference. The Sawback is stiffer where you might lose traction in one wheel when going over rocks and some terrain versus the Komodo where the links will flex enough to compensate for the lift. But for someone starting out I would still recommend the 4LS.
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If it's for your daughter, I'd do the 4LS. I happen to have both 4LS and a Sport (leaf spring). I plan on building the leaf spring version soon, but there are things you have to watch for like axle wrap, etc. More care needed for the leaf springs.
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We are going to run these on easy hiking and camping trails. I doubt that we will do anything hard-core. I kind of want something different. My daughter can run the Ascender if I do get the leaf spring Sawback. The D90 is top heavy and easier to tip over. My son is a much better driver. Will I need a lot of upgrade parts right off the bat with the Sawback? I read the anti-wrap is a necessity.
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We are going to run these on easy hiking and camping trails. I doubt that we will do anything hard-core. I kind of want something different. My daughter can run the Ascender if I do get the leaf spring Sawback. The D90 is top heavy and easier to tip over. My son is a much better driver. Will I need a lot of upgrade parts right off the bat with the Sawback? I read the anti-wrap is a necessity.
I don't run any anti wrap bars, never have in the near 3 years of ownership I have on the truck. I'm also still on my original set of leaves, and the truck has many many hours of runtime under its belt and loads of comp work.

The secret is remember it doesnt have a slipper, so don't drive it like an scx10. If you get in a bind; back off.
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Is Amain the best place to get the Sawback? It looks like $239 with the $30 discount.
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Depends on the sawback you want. They have three different kind. The original that is about $269 including shipping the sports and 4LS these two are about $299 including shipping. The difference between the three the original comes with smaller tires, no light bar on top of the jeep or roll cage nor front bumper lights and no light buckets. The sports comes with all of these and so does the 4LS. Also the 4LS comes with the Komodo tires. Remember they don't come with electronics just the kit for this price.
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Depends on how much shipping is, rcmart have it for $269 free post
http://www.rcmart.com/gs01-sawback-p-38343.html?cPath=1102_1106
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After reading the forum over at rccrawler.com, I am not sure if I want to deal with leaf springs. The kids like the Sawback more than the Komoto. I will probably be getting the Sawback 4LS. The only time I dealt with leaf springs was when I built the Tamiya Tundra, which I ran in the house. I felt the suspension was too rigid compare other rigs I had including the scx10 and cr01.
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If you go with the 4LS you can always get a leaf spring suspension kit later if you wanna try it. Amain is a great place to buy. They ship fast and free. And if you do wanna try the Komodo later you can always get the body kit cause it will fit the 4LS chassis.
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What about MST CFX-W? It has the portal axles.
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I love both of my Sawbacks. Both leaf springs. Pick up a set of the brass axle weights and the wrap bars (don't need per-se, but good insurance if the kids are wheeling) and go to town. Driving a leaf spring truck is very different from a linked truck. Very little torque steer and they stay flatter - surprising where they can go and be stable. If you've got a lot of 4 linked trucks, it's a good idea to try a leafer. Note you can add/remove leaves to soften up the suspension.

I've read that the 4 link is a bit wonky since it is on a chassis designed for leafs, but I've never ran it so I cannot say 100%.

If it's for the kids, the body takes an 8 inch action figure, so you can really get creative with the body and theme. I've seen them with Barbies, Star Wars - you name it.

I was going to make a Dixie out of mine, but thought of it after I had already done the body work


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I just place an order for the original sawback from Amain. I am going to give leaf springs a try. Since I am in CA as well, it says I should get it by tomorrow.
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Nice you'll enjoy it.
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You'll like it cause it's different in a good way.
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