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flymetonight 02-08-2023 02:45 PM

Finally. Worlds BEST RTR Crawler is here. VS4-10 Phoenix RTR
 
FINALLY YES.
https://cdn10.bigcommerce.com/s-1pjn...0.1000.jpg?c=2$479.99

if you want DIG and all functions, just buy 2 extra servos.
Radio is 4ch already.

VS4-10 PHOENIX RTR

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The VS4-10 Phoenix RTR is the first RTR platform from Vanquish Products.

Features the VFD Twin transmission and F10 Straight Axles. Included is a full function digital 4 Channel VT-1 Transmitter with multiple model memory and end point adjustment, making the VS4-10 Phoenix RTR ready to be equipped for fully functioning Dig and Selectable OD. Or run it out of the box with 6% OD powered by a 35T VM-1 Motor and VE-1 3S capable ESC. The large diameter Stainless Steel links bring high end Vanquish Products kit quality to the RTR market. The drivetrain is equiped with machined ring and pinion gears, chromoly universal axle shafts, and chromoly 6-bolt spools for the ultimate in durability. Full ball bearings, metal transmission gears and 32P spur / pinion provide smooth and reliable performance when tackling the toughest terrain.

The VS4-10 Phoenix RTR is equipped with features never before offered in a scale RTR of its kind. The VFD Twin incorporates Selectable Overdrive Shifting and 3-position dig ready (servos not included*) into one compact package. The molded F10 Straight Axles utilize a high clearance design which minimizes the size of the pumpkin and maximizes clearance around the C-hub and knuckle. Connecting the VFD Twin to the F10 Axles are the ISD10 driveshafts. The ISD10 Driveshafts have machined CV style joints at each end with molded splined shafts between them for smooth, quiet and efficient performance. The large 8mm bore S8E shocks included dual X-Ring cartridge and scale threaded caps with a sealed upper bleeder screw. S8E preload adjustment is a breeze with the threaded shock bodies and collars.
  • VFD Twin Transmission - Selectable Overdrive and Dig Ready
  • F10 Straight Axles
  • Offset Pumpkin Front Axle
  • Centered Pumpkin Rear Axle
  • Machined Ring and Pinion gears with Chromoly 6-bolt spools
  • Universal-style front axle shafts
  • HD Stainless Steel Links
  • 25T 20MM Metal Servo Horn
  • Machined Aluminum Panhard Mount
  • Double Shear Shock Mounts
  • Aluminum machined 12mm Hexes
  • ISD10 Driveshafts
  • S8E Shocks with Bleeder cap and clamping spring cup retainers
  • Hidden body clip system

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VT-1 Digital 4 Channel Transmitter provides industry leading features and tuning capabilities in an RTR. 15 model memory, multi-channel end point and rate adjustment, digital screen and multi-position switches for the 3rd and 4th channel. Your VFD Twin equipped VS4-10 Phoenix RTR is ready for your additional servos to utilize dig and selectable overdrive using the VT-1 Transmitter.

VE-1 ESC is 3S LiPo capable and includes a strong BEC to power servo functions. The built-in jumpers can be moved to adjust LiPo cut-off and drag brake strength. Factory tuned for your VS4-10 Phoenix RTR. The VE-1 ESC is our version of the Hobbywing 1060, one of the most trusted RTR ESC’s on the market.

VM-1 35T Brushed motor is a closed endbell design tuned for the VS4-10 Phoenix RTR to provide trail torque with plenty of speed to conquer the roughest terrain with confidence.

VS-1 Metal Gear Servo tackles the steering duty on the VS4-10 Phoenix with 200oz-in of torque. Ready for all elements the VS-1 Servo is water resistant and durable with its metal gears and 25T output spline for industry standard servo horns. *

VS4-10 Chassis is made to provide you with a balance of scale looks and unhindered performance. The steel C-channel design provides scale detail, molded front and rear cross members fill the chassis rails in the highest stress locations for ultimate strength and provide features like dual servo mounts, winch line routing, and a fuel cell. The molded rock sliders come with a replaceable tapered outer portion that perfectly fits the Phoenix body. The VS4-10 chassis is developed to work with the VFD Twin transmission to keep the overdrive and dig servo low on the platform. The panhard mount on the chassis is made from machined aluminum to withstand the impacts of severe trail conditions. Molded shock towers capture the top of the 90mm Incision S8E Shocks in double shear for maximum support. Narrow molded front and rear bumpers maximize clearances while improving approach and departure angles.
  • Heavy Duty High Clearance Steel C-Channel Frame Rails
  • Molded Front Inner Fenders with integrated LED mounts
  • Phoenix Molded Rock sliders
  • Phoenix High Clearance Bumpers
  • Integrated battery tray and electronic mounting positions
  • VFD Twin Overdrive and Dig servo mounts
  • Stainless Steel links
  • Molded inner fenders with front body hinge and scale radiator mount
VFD Twin Transmission is an evolution of the original VFD. Taking the same balance of performance, scale appearance, strength, and adding industry first features. The VFD Twin comes equipped with selectable overdrive and rear dig. Twin shifting transfer case utilizes replaceable bearing plates, a brass pivot for the shift arms, and chromoly shift slides. Borrowing from our proven Hurtz dig, the VFD twin shifting is smooth and reliable. On the fly overdrive shifting from 6.5% to 46% makes an immediate change to the driving characteristics and tuning options. The VFD Twin transmission places the motor forward and as low as possible. Compatible with 540 brushed and brushless motors*
  • On the fly Selectable Overdrive
  • Standard Overdrive 6.5%
  • Selectable High Overdrive 46%
  • Use Overdrive neutral position for 2WD (disengage front output)
  • Dig with 3 Positions
  • Slipper Clutch
  • Sintered Internal Gears
  • Hardened Chromoly Shafts
  • Molded VFD Twin Extended Skid Plate for Motor Protection
  • Molded Battery and Electronic trays
  • Full ball bearing transmission
  • Sintered Shift arms with Brass pivot shift bushing
  • Chromoly slide dogs for Overdrive and Dig shifting
  • Scale Molded Transmission Housing
  • Machined Aluminum Bearing Plates
  • Molded 6mm motor plate
  • Molded Spur Gear Cover
  • 32P 52T Spur and 15T Steel Pinion
  • Silicone dust shields for shift arms***
F10 Straight Axles benefit from Vanquish Product’s years of design experience in making the industry’s best aluminum axles. The molded plastic F10 Straight axles feature an ultra rigid design with an integrated truss that ties both ends of the axle together, and oversized C's with an integrated panhard mount.
  • Molded Plastic Axle housings
  • Universal Style Axle Shafts
  • 49 Degrees of Steering
  • High Caster reinforced C-Hub
  • High-Pinion Hypoid Machined Axle Gears (30/8)
  • 6-Bolt Ring Gear and Spool
  • 5mm Output shafts with M4 wheel nut
  • One-Piece Molded Bearing Retainers
  • Adjustable Lower Shock Mounting Position
  • Scale removable third member
  • Machined aluminum red anodized rear fill cap with molded install tool
Phoenix Body with VRD1 Cage
  • VRD1 Rear Cage
  • 3-Piece Body Design
  • Headlight and Tail Light buckets
  • Molded Grill
  • Hinged Design
  • Hidden body clips with quick release front pivot pin
Wheels and Tires
  • 1.9 Falken Wildpeak M/T - RED Compound Tires
  • 1.9 Incision KMC KM233 Hex Beadlock Wheels

VS4-10 PHOENIX RTR SPECIFICATIONS

  • 1/10th Scale
  • Falken Wildpeak RED Compound 4.65”x 1.9” tires
  • 3.75:1 Axle Gear Ratio
  • 13T/56T Pinion/Spur
  • Overall Width: 242mm (9.53")
  • Overall height: 242mm (9.53")
  • Wheelbase: 313mm (12.3")
  • Overall Front Ratio (Standard 6.5% OD): 47.6:1
  • Overall Front Ratio (Optional High 46% OD): 31.8:1
  • Overall Rear Ratio: 50.8:1
  • RTR weight (without battery): 5.9lbs (2.7kg)
  • Front and Rear axle width pin to pin: 182mm (7.17")

REQUIRES

  • 2-3S LiPo Battery or 6 cell NiMh (XT60 Plug)
  • Compatible battery charger for selected battery (XT60 Plug)

*ADDITIONAL ELECTRONICS FOR OPTIONAL VFD TWIN FUNCTIONALITY

  • X2 Standard size servos for Dig and Selectable Overdrive (Standard or Low Profile)
  • X2 24mm servo horns


*** Transmission dust shield is not 100% element proof. Use access cover to regularly check transmission for debris and add grease as needed.

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flymetonight 02-08-2023 03:13 PM

Video

Harley Designs with this new Vanquish RTR
https://youtu.be/po8O3D-ax2w

Unboxing , and Run

flymetonight 02-08-2023 03:28 PM

More Videos

Greg RCDriver online

https://youtu.be/g1nY8g51LiU

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King DORK 02-10-2023 10:27 AM

I like the idea (kinda), but the included motor/esc/servo leave a lot to be desired. However, assuming the market is for newer drivers, the price point is good in comparison to the other rtr rigs out there. Is likely the best performing rtr as far as chassis goes.

Rcdad42 02-16-2023 09:54 AM

Ya, it's a Great point for a rtr rig. Compare this to a scx10.3 rtr, I think this has a leg up.

flymetonight 02-22-2023 08:22 AM

Radio looks okey to be RTR, digital is nice with foam wheel.

The ESC is junk.
This rig is very capable and have alot awsome features, high quality parts.
This needs 80a HW 1080 ESC offcourse.

Motor is okey.

Wish they sell this with Quickrun 1080 ESC and Programmer Card (led) included in the box and asking 499$

20bucks more, alot better esc with nice setting, modular, controll.
This is a Game Changer ESC comparet to what it has now.

Vanquish should have made this 499$ with 1080 ESC
That would be awsome. And they could done this very easy.

This rig deserves that ESC

crydaddy 02-24-2023 07:56 PM

This might swing me to finally get back to running a crawler.

themountain 02-26-2023 02:27 AM

They should offer it without electronics as a roller:nod:

King DORK 02-26-2023 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by themountain (Post 15984575)
They should offer it without electronics as a roller:nod:

That would be a great option. I haven’t built one of these (yet), but curious how much disassembly would be necessary to mount the electronics, especially the motor. I have zero interest in any of the electronics included in a RTR. My wife got me the 1/18 scale Capra for Christmas. I love the little fella but already got a bunch of upgrades and planning on motor/esc (which would mean new radio & receiver as well), servo, and 3s lipo. Of course all of the upgrades alone are easily 2x the cost of the rig, but 15+ crawlers on the bench now I’d say that that’s normal.

flymetonight 02-27-2023 05:38 AM


Originally Posted by themountain (Post 15984575)
They should offer it without electronics as a roller:nod:

Yeah , that would be the dream . Ready Build Roller.
Just put your own Motor. ESC and Servo-. Use own radio, just buy extra receiver.
This Crawler deserves Brushless Combo.


Second best option would be like it is RTR , but With HW 1080 ESC.

I dont understund why they did release this with that Crap ESC. Because this rig is very Capable.
And we all know that 1080 ESC with Programmer Card is a true Game Changer.
A really true Crawler ESC with great Settings/parameters easy set up with included Led Programmer Card.


N0B0DY 04-14-2023 10:30 AM

I've had my Phoenix RTR for two weeks now and have run about 10 2200mah packs through it.
Some thoughts.

The suspension works great and the shocks were properly built from the factory. They seem evenly damped and had no leaks. The adjustable spring perches on the coilovers were all out of whack but easily adjusted in like 10 seconds.
The steering servo is weak. It was ok for the first day or so but lost power fast. Now, it's painfully weak.
The truck included silly things like the front crossmember which is molded like a radiator with a dual cooling fan shroud and it actually has little fans inside that are bolted in. This part could easily have been substituted for a cheap crossmember and the cost put into another component. Scale, yeah... but you wouldn't see the fans unless the body was off. I removed mine completely and made a kydex battery mount next to the steering servo to hold a small 2200mah 3s pack.
The tires are dog water. I immediately put Proline 2-stage foam in them and I feel like the tires still really held the truck back. They were tested on sandstone, granite, red and grey shale, concrete rubble, loamy soil, etc. They shed clay mud better than I thought they would and flex really well, and I like the way they look, but those are the only positives. When I swapped to Hyrax knockoffs, the performance increase was notable.
The cheapo plastic kinda-beadlock wheels didn't do a good job of holding the beads either. So, the wheels and tires get two thumbs down.

This ESC/motor combo has sufficient power but the low speed modulation is unsatisfactory. My TRX-4 High Trail crawls MUCH slower with much better control in mode 5. I was really surprised how bad the modulation was on the vanquish. However, the killer suspension made up for the lack of crawl and the truck still does amazing things.
I like the radio so far. It was easy to adjust endpoints and configure channels when I added servos for Dig and OD.
The menu's for expo's and other functions are fairly intuitive so they did a good job with the UI.
The steering endpoints were really weird from the factory. I think they were set to about 25 degrees of steering angle. The truck is capable of much more than that. I didn't measure the angles but I think it's well past 45 degrees now.
I don't like the location of the body clips or the front pivot, but that's not just on the RTR.

The truck is a lot of fun to drive and I am happy to have it, but I would not say its the best RTR or anything like that. I might agree that its a great RTR which, when upgraded, has a slightly higher potential than some other RTR's. If I had it to do over, I would just buy the kit because after two weeks I already want to replace the steering servo, wheels, tires, battery tray, ESC, Motor, and probably a couple other little things. By comparison, I have had my TRX-4 High Trail for a month and have only felt the need to replace the steering servo. I have modded it, but those are mods like brass and trimming etc, which have to be done to the Vanquish too.


N0B0DY 04-24-2023 05:48 AM

A huge step towards making the Phoenix RTR suck a whole lot less.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rct...5949a20fa4.jpg

FREEDOM83 04-24-2023 06:24 AM

This would make it difficult for stores other than themselves to have stock, but with the material they have and the compatibility between axles and trucks, I would have the option of buying VS4 to taste, choosing tranny, choosing axles, etc. and giving them the option to make custom KITs. .. I personally think the Phoenix is a very good option, but at most we prefer the normal VFD , nobody wants cheaper kit than PRO or ULTRA for spend a lot op money in servos ... It is illogical

King DORK 04-24-2023 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by N0B0DY (Post 15999467)
A huge step towards making the Phoenix RTR suck a whole lot less.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rct...5949a20fa4.jpg

Couldn’t agree more.

N0B0DY 04-26-2023 07:06 AM


Originally Posted by FREEDOM83 (Post 15999485)
This would make it difficult for stores other than themselves to have stock, but with the material they have and the compatibility between axles and trucks, I would have the option of buying VS4 to taste, choosing tranny, choosing axles, etc. and giving them the option to make custom KITs. .. I personally think the Phoenix is a very good option, but at most we prefer the normal VFD , nobody wants cheaper kit than PRO or ULTRA for spend a lot op money in servos ... It is illogical

It would be a logistical nightmare but sure would be nice. I sure as hell would have preferred portal axles over straight. This leads into my next post...


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