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cooper_xl 05-15-2022 09:07 AM

Unimog 1/10
 
I'm making this truck for a long time. It started as a pretty conventional build but it evolved. I'm not posting the first set of photos because they were lost when PhotoBucket went down.


Started as a scratchbuilt cab and bed,custom c-channel chassis and straight scx10 axles...

These photos feature a completely new bed and portal axles
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...ef4432ac_c.jpg


https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...931c5114_c.jpg


https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...47666faa_c.jpg


cooper_xl 05-16-2022 11:38 AM

This is the second bed I do for this truck:


First, the bottom:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4654/...d549b58a_b.jpg


And then, one side:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4765/...0189ccb3_b.jpg

Back:
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4752/...89b4b852_b.jpg


With primer:
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4667/...f75fac8f_b.jpg


It's the first time I've worked with tooling foil. It's fun stuff


Scribed the all the lines and started with the "nails":

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4783/...eaa519a7_b.jpg

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4789/...50ab2e8f_b.jpg


After all the nails, some black spray, a bit of sanding to do a kind of black wash,apply a heavy duty metal brush to do a wooden texture and finally the brown:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4792/...3ed1fb5d_b.jpg

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4774/...bb4f9e18_b.jpg

more zoom!

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4783/...9e5c6fd4_b.jpg[/url]



Honestly, i was surprised with the result as the paint could fill the texture of the metal brush but turned out nice. A mate clear coat in the end will take the shine away



More on the rear bed,has hinges, only need to replace the lower screws for shorter ones:
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/812/2...c5891157_b.jpg



https://farm1.staticflickr.com/788/2...c64c94ee_b.jpg

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4777/...fd6dec49_b.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/819/2...e52a4f2c_b.jpg


Very satisfied with the bed width, the bedsides drop perfectly




cooper_xl 05-17-2022 11:47 AM

small stuff:


The bedsides open,good...but they have to stay closed most of the time so i've came with an idea that it's not hard to execute and don't look out of place


First, machined these 3mm pieces with a 1.5mm hole for the pin (dowel?):
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4774/...db8e79be_b.jpg


then, made the part that bolts on the bedside:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4786/...e79ea532_b.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/800/4...11e831ac_b.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/802/4...0a2f4bd2_b.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/800/4...e2dff9dc_b.jpg

The black bolts should be countersunk but the tool failed on me so had to use these ones. The chain will be replaced if I find a smaller one


https://farm1.staticflickr.com/814/2...3c152abe_b.jpg


All the latches done, rear tailgate and it's steps:

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/874/2...40332ea1_b.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/865/4...1f3ca3ee_b.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/893/3...1982bcfa_b.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/816/3...5044ac2c_b.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/900/4...a33c00d5_b.jpg



Bishop approves:

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/788/4...c7313ed7_b.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/863/3...e5de16f7_b.jpg

cooper_xl 05-18-2022 11:01 AM

mudguards:

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/935/4...d8758929_c.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/927/4...cdcbdc89_c.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/842/4...d31d4ff1_c.jpg

cooper_xl 05-19-2022 01:19 PM

But, even like that, the truck needs updates,one being a slightly larger fuel tank and the other, adding a rear canvas to the bed, because it was one of my initial requirements,even before the start of the project




My current bed is fine but I've scrapped the idea of the canvas before because there's no way I can put functional hooks on the thin aluminum that's on the bedsides so I'll make a brand new bed for this purpose



This time, I'll print the bedsides because of my current personal situation, and doing the floor and struture as before,with wood and PVC sheet



2 prints, 1 side:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...c43caafa_b.jpg



How the corners would look like
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...962e676b_b.jpg




Giving some wooden texture to the PVC
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...3c29d9c4_b.jpg



Small nails to mimic round head bolts securing the planks
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...d069ec2b_b.jpg



Black for panel gaps
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...9c2bf367_b.jpg



Painted in a colour that should be brown but it's more like dark olive drab so it will stay
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...4a80f57a_b.jpg



https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...705d04de_b.jpg


Next is prepping the sides to paint and attach

cooper_xl 05-19-2022 03:10 PM

Mudguards printed and painted

https://i.imgur.com/IhGnkvsl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/4KqbGQFl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/5uobma7l.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/eZVW7rTl.jpg

cooper_xl 05-20-2022 03:35 PM

Well, things are going slow...was anxious to get the metal stuff done to pass the bed to the lady who will do the tarp.


https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...3cb37d09_b.jpg


https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...29d14a3b_b.jpg


https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...7dc57e99_b.jpg


At first, I will only make the front and rear arch like the real ones but all my reference photos were from 4x4s. This long bed would need one more,atleast

The archs are 4mm stainless steel and the rest 3mm. The feet are steel, brazed to the archs.Was planning to braze everything but I'm quicker with the TIG.

cooper_xl 05-22-2022 04:06 PM

One more random detail for the 'mog



https://i.imgur.com/wYe6BE4l.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/8Garqehl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/hz05B8ml.jpg


I live in a rough neighbourhood :)



The tailgate is almost painted and ready to be mounted. Did one of the bench seat but maybe I'll put only one and left the space left for cargo


https://i.imgur.com/OYiqgTjl.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/ZJEgUREl.jpg

cooper_xl 05-25-2022 03:27 PM

Printed a pair of improved functional tailgate hinges to be glued to the bed. They're printed in one piece, let's hope they hold

https://i.imgur.com/v5MUq0Vl.jpg


Tailgate with the hooks. Not shown, are the rubber stops(printed in TPU because scale :) )
https://i.imgur.com/6I2gw9Zl.jpg




https://i.imgur.com/dLnT3Dol.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/8k70o44h.jpg


Closed latch
https://i.imgur.com/YaTxiifh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Grw8S8hh.jpg


A printed hinge.
https://i.imgur.com/J17IN3gh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/mFQ4Rl3h.jpg


I'm very excited how it turned out.Anxious to get it on the trails




cooper_xl 05-27-2022 04:27 PM

Because the truck has to function properly,I've improved the rear shocks to handle the extra weight.

The old ones weren't shock absorbers at all, were pretty and scale but there was no o-rings on the shaft so they couldn't hold the oil.

So , found these 60mm shocks for cheap and took the springs out and filled with 1000 oil:

https://i.imgur.com/QCLJ1KQh.jpg



They only problem is that they are made for m2.5 hardware and couldn't find 4.8mm balls for m3 so did these ones:


https://i.imgur.com/icNvazih.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/r2dfc0jh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/GXMap3Qh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Ad78ogWh.jpg


Don't like them upside down but unfortunately,this was the only way to mount them...



Another detail that was buggin me was mounting this tow hitch

https://i.imgur.com/UoS5LfCh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/5RL4jwVh.jpg


Got the hitch from eBay, some M2 scale bolts and printed the frame around it


Don't mind the rust. It's almost ready to be painted

Smokeyr67 05-30-2022 11:05 AM

Great work!

cooper_xl 05-30-2022 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by Smokeyr67 (Post 15908254)
Great work!

Thank you!

Well,in my opinion, 3D printing is cool but when we only print scale acessories, we're just scratching the surface of it's true potential

The Moose axles being released free maybe clicked in my brain and came back from an old idea of making a full axle for the unimog. The problem is that I like this truck but the ugly axles seem out of place. Adding to that the front axle is a Frankenstein that i don't know how it never failed

So,I've started to design from scratch,heavily influenced by the now discontinued SSD D60 axle housing.

This housing will have all the features of the old one like being 20mm narrower to compensate to portal boxes,panhard mount, spring perches,spherical ends, 7° of caster and 3rd link mount. The pumpkin is small as the stock gears allow...


Front:
https://i.imgur.com/ZL9MKVHl.jpg


back:
https://i.imgur.com/h4uhW7Ll.jpg



https://i.imgur.com/5vKHzral.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/SMRg66sl.jpg


Like the Stones said: "I see a red axle and I want it painted black" :)

https://i.imgur.com/ba2ji1Ph.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/kBhML0Jh.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/pIsib3bh.jpg


more subtle...

cooper_xl 05-31-2022 04:34 PM

After a lot of time without trails,finally did it!!

Took the JK, the M548 and the 'mog to drive a little. Ended driving the Unimog a lot more than the others


https://i.imgur.com/xFo9n6Ch.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/NyJU80Ph.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/vrGckuvh.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/W5gi4nAh.jpg


Tried an easy line with sucess and was doing slightly harder lines and the truck was doing great...ended in one that I was positive that will fail...but the truck managed to climb. In 1st gear of course


cooper_xl 06-01-2022 04:28 PM

That previous axle sparked an old idea of making 100% printed axles based on the real ones. A few years ago I worked on that, having housings printed but the big scx10 internals didn't allowed to do them small and nice. Fast forward to the present and adding to my improved 3d skills,we have more choice of diff parts

Someone suggested TRX4 diff gears and using lockable diff. Was a great idea but the parts are too expensive.Remember that I need 4 sets to make 3 axles. Went to scx10.2 gears from Ebay and they seem good, nice machining and finish

The issue was doing the gear mesh because of the "high pinion" feature but after a few tries, is done

Doesn't seems but it works:
https://i.imgur.com/qcJDS1Ih.jpg

I'm aiming for this,2 halves:

https://i.imgur.com/1Z3FLPrh.png

The angle on the pinions is because torque tubes(like the real Unimog) are a possibility.

cooper_xl 06-03-2022 01:20 PM

just to keep this going:

My transfer case was a 2s Helios, nice case but big. Wasn't able to center it and adapting the torquetubes to it would be a PITA so, Plan B:




https://i.imgur.com/0kqJmHI.png


This transfer case has everything integrated and it's small as possible. Uses stock scx10 gears so is easy to repair. Could used smaller gears but the torquetube mounts will always be this size so there was no advantages





Here, everything mocked up with the v1 transfer case(above is the v2,not as tall)
https://i.imgur.com/G8nphxah.jpg


This transfer case will bolt to a new skidplate to mount the transfer box as centered as I could. The torquetubes require that. The skidplate sits lower than the older one but I think that wouldn't be a problem, this is a scale truck afterall



Quick mockup:


https://i.imgur.com/wsOuRH6h.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/uy65QeXh.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/ZsFjsdHh.jpg



Missed the torquetube length by a couple of milimeters but the real ones will be machined from aluminium so it's fine

The rear trackbar mounts are in place. Need to redo the motor mount and wait for the diff bearings to arrive. My plan is to complete and mount an axle before moving to the next one

cooper_xl 06-04-2022 12:20 PM

I realize now why I don't see many projects with torquetubes. This have a unique set of challenges

Speaking of torquetubes, did the definitive ones, they were 3d printed one at first to confirm the length and if everything worked.

So, now in aluminium:

https://i.imgur.com/PelMwNch.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/lNzYQ3Xh.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/Y0K8NQEh.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/ZNHNNBph.jpg



cooper_xl 06-05-2022 04:44 PM

How to extend the diff pinion shaf:

On SCX10 gears, this would be easier: a longer shaft where the pinion fit...the pinion on scx10.2 has the shaft incorporated. So, I had the option of welding a shaft but would have to repeat that if I wanted to change the pinion. There was not space inside the torquetube to do something with a grub screw holding the 2 parts

So, the idea replaces the grub screw with a 2.5mm metal rod,hammered in the ends, like a rivet. This way, I can replace the pinion shaft and bearings

https://i.imgur.com/2wx6hS2h.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/bvQ3YzFh.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/98gSZ2Kh.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/eK73aqzh.jpg

cooper_xl 06-06-2022 12:25 PM

Did these reinforcement rods, like the real one has and could mount everything to test

https://i.imgur.com/WwuRrhFh.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/4pk9ASjh.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/LGZ6FIih.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/1LAiBzNh.jpeg


https://i.imgur.com/JJrcps1h.jpeg

cooper_xl 06-07-2022 11:52 AM

this is a close-up of the housing. 0.2 layer height
https://i.imgur.com/yFxu3nph.jpg

cooper_xl 06-09-2022 10:49 AM

Printed the 3rd axle and it's in place(need to take pics), 2nd axle is still being modeled. Didn't have the time to sit and finish it properly.

But I've made this:

https://i.imgur.com/HVOMVUUh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/qE7CgRCh.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/kbzNEU2h.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/xtEvp9Rh.jpg


My steering was like this before:



It was to try to make it more scale and also hide the servo. Well, it kind of worked. Even with a 25kg servo, it seemed to lack torque and in bad spots, the servo just won't turn the wheels. Besides, tie-rods hit each other.
So, simple is better and now the servo is mounted on the bumper. Made 2 brass mounts and the servo is angled to clear the bottom of the cab and also the servo horn(+rod-end) clear the steering rod

cooper_xl 06-10-2022 07:52 AM

Now that the 3rd axle is in place with proper links, tackled the most difficult axle, the 2nd. Figured the angle difference between the 2 shafts via basic prototypes and then did the full axle model


This is one of halves:
https://i.imgur.com/aaSBT7Lh.png


Printed one of this axle halves horizontally like the other axles but ended being weak on the portal box end,so tried something new.

Printing vertically will make both ends stronger and better finished but the tube weaker so enlarged the bore in the model to accept a 8mm tube drilled to clear the shaft



https://i.imgur.com/6AfCtUbh.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/0EoKtVNh.jpeg


https://i.imgur.com/Cup35iUh.jpeg

cooper_xl 06-11-2022 01:22 AM

Fitted a new and stronger 1:5 planetary gearbox because the old one was too slow(1:9)


https://i.imgur.com/fiYZCEFh.jpg



And assembled almost everything to do some real world tests

https://i.imgur.com/k7JktGth.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/54mbrdXh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/2c3sHcih.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/KNYtUbLh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/BSPVzVYh.jpg

After this, I'll disassemble everything to paint the chassis and mount the spare, fuel tank and exhaust

cooper_xl 06-12-2022 03:03 PM

Nothing better than real world testing:




cooper_xl 06-14-2022 04:26 PM

I took it apart to fix some things and paint the chassis. Was to paint the wheels but paint ran out...Someone told to paint it black but...all chassis are black...

https://i.imgur.com/Io5LdPXh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/0mfJEVzh.jpg

Did the fuel tank mounts in TPU to bend instead of breaking like the old ones...


I'm in the process of assemble each axle with proper bolts,gear mesh and correct tolerances. Also, I'm adding lights which are my Achilles heel. Not hard stuff but not a big fan :)

cooper_xl 06-16-2022 07:39 AM

A small thing I've done some time ago and put aside until now. It's 3D printed and the bends were done with heat.


https://i.imgur.com/rk2nQE5h.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/7O1SCd3h.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ixReWBph.jpg



cooper_xl 06-20-2022 11:24 AM

A curiosity:

3D printing is a awesome tool but not everything can came out like it should. Sealed Bearings are tricky pieces and demand precision. On the first axles, used the Dremel to proper seat the pinion bearings but was much of a guesswork.To little and the axles halves doesn't close, too much and the bearing gets loose



Did this improvised cutter with the right diameter and spacing:


https://i.imgur.com/xECoLvlh.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/T6xgqZ3h.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/newa1kuh.jpg


Simply fit it and screw the halves while rotating the tool. There's no chance of cutting too much

cooper_xl 06-21-2022 11:28 AM

A small test drive to test everything


cooper_xl 06-22-2022 12:03 PM

There's not much to do on this truck,besides finish the lights(which I'm doing in the right mood :) )

I've got some AK weathering pencils and wanted to try them. Saw the mirrors scratched from the trails and decided to apply some rust instead of touching up with OD green

https://i.imgur.com/nHnH2vxh.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/BBoIE2zh.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/VJ5lc7Eh.jpg

This is my first try to do rust

cooper_xl 06-27-2022 02:39 PM

When I've added the rubber around the windshield, tried the same on the side windows but couldn't glue the tube around that smaller opening and quit. Now,I'm back to it with a different approach


Paper template and then passed to PVC sheet:

https://i.imgur.com/dFm0hxxh.jpg



First cuts:

https://i.imgur.com/7HjdBG9h.jpg



After some sanding:

https://i.imgur.com/sj5lfNFh.jpg



And painted:

https://i.imgur.com/2TPBqX0h.jpg



https://i.imgur.com/gepkS1Hh.jpg



https://i.imgur.com/QR3YWzAh.jpg

cooper_xl 06-28-2022 11:36 AM

Decided to improve some things:


https://i.imgur.com/1evcqH8h.png


This is the new upgraded transfer case. Same dimensions to fit the skidplate. Designed around these new 24t M1 pinions instead of the stock scx10 gearbox gears. The idea was to get rid of the 1:1.7 redution(truck was painfully slow) and try to connect to the 3rd axle via this pinion on the right that will have an output shaft facing the rear,instead of the 2nd axle being a pass-through. Case printed in PLA+,gears are steel, running on 7x14 bearings and ignore those 5x10 bearings that are only spacers


https://i.imgur.com/bW6yD90h.jpg




cooper_xl 06-29-2022 02:33 PM

Was doing some tweaks on the rear axles:
https://i.imgur.com/k25Quoih.png

I was about to doing a centered 3rd axle but I've offset the pumpkin 15mm to improve driveshaft angles. From reference photos, this model of Unimog axles are slight offset so no harm done :)



Modified the portal covers, making them stronger without messing much with the look. Printed 4 but did 2 more and upgraded also the front axle.

https://i.imgur.com/LyLAyQYh.jpg





Middle axle:
https://i.imgur.com/XfFlIhhh.jpg






Third axle
https://i.imgur.com/3NE7AcBh.jpg





Because the offset diff of the third axle, had to do new unequal shafts

https://i.imgur.com/3joXH3Lh.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/sr5SYf8h.jpg





Middle axle with the driveshaft bearing carrier

https://i.imgur.com/8FmgBHnh.jpg




https://i.imgur.com/jczrMGGh.jpg




Assembled...have to organize all the wiring again...

https://i.imgur.com/oQSIYych.jpg

cooper_xl 06-30-2022 04:06 PM

Did this to move the battery to a more practical location


https://i.imgur.com/9Xglch6h.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/TqDIfWRh.jpg



I'm planning add some sort of connector on the bottom in order to take out the whole box to replace the battery instead of doing "finger olimpics" inside the cargo area

cooper_xl 07-03-2022 04:19 PM


cooper_xl 07-06-2022 11:41 AM

Time for change...

One thing I think I need to improve in this truck is the front axle width. Wheels stick out from the fenders and there's too much scrub radius from the added width of the portal boxes,making the tires rub


So I've gather some parts and make new portal boxes:

https://i.imgur.com/0I67WBSh.png

Yes, they look similar,albeit being made from scratch instead of copying the old ones.

I'm using a 12t portal gear and universal shafts from Capra. The big gear is the same 25t 32dp pinion but inverted(The section where the grub screw is fits perfectly on a 10x15x4 bearing!

At the moment, each portal box measures 5,5mm less than the old ones which is great. I can narrow the axle housing if needed,even if it don't solve the scrub radius problem



cooper_xl 07-07-2022 10:25 AM

Everything seems to be going well

Printed the 2 knuckles and 2 covers. Mounted, match the estimate of 11mm narrower axle. Doesn't seem much but is very noticeable with the cab.

At the moment, I'm printing a updated axle housing half. Only had to change a driveshaft bearing position by 1mm to fit the new Capra uni shafts

https://i.imgur.com/WdjcRujh.jpg


Before vs. now:
https://i.imgur.com/Ppjh7Cqh.jpg

cooper_xl 07-10-2022 01:50 PM

I'm not that happy with the printed files. They are strong but don't look that good. For now,they'll suffice but I'll try to improve. Switched ASA to PLA+ and helicoils to thread directly on plastic. Helicoils are cool but sometimes they would unscrew itself.


As it stands:
https://i.imgur.com/SEGke8dh.jpg

It has the diff,bearings and torquetube. Uni shafts turn smoothly so the dimensions seem right. Just need to shorten them 15mm each to be mounted in place

cooper_xl 07-13-2022 03:38 PM

Assembled them, taking care of some rubbing.

https://i.imgur.com/HAE2D2Yh.jpg


On the truck , visually,there's virtually no diference altough being a brand new axle. Also, got rid of the helicoil threads. Was a bit of work, putting all of them and not always were strong as I thought . The panhard screw was always loose

https://i.imgur.com/84MBRFqh.jpg


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