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Old 01-12-2005, 11:58 AM
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Hey all,

I didnt want to start this thread till the 4-cell thread had lost some steam and it appears it has. Related to some of the ideas in that thread was making it easier to introduce more drivers to modified racing and move them up the ladder.


Have any of you noticed two major things in electric on-road racing?

1) Fully sponsored stock racers

2) Same 10 guys on the stand for every Modified Touring or Modified 12th scale A-main in the country for the last 5 years or more?

I cannot help but think that longterm this is not good for the sport. It seems young-or not even young , but very talented drivers are staying in stock on a National Level and choosing not to move to Modified.


I applaud guys like Chicky for just one small example who have made a lot of big race A-Mains and finished well who find its time to move up to modified-knowing full well it may take time to be a Force for TQ's in mod. Theres a LOTmore than him-we know that-but still-we rarely see any new faces at the top of the heap.

I race stock/masters-I am not ready-anyone can tell you that who races with me-for mod. But-all my longterm goals are centered around modified racing. I beleive its why we do this.
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Old 01-12-2005, 12:02 PM
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And no_ I am not saying that Mod is for everyone-but everyone knows there are guys in this country who could make it up there to the top of Mod-so why arent they?
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Old 01-12-2005, 12:05 PM
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Well put Ray. I saw that Bobby Flack stepped it up at the NOVAK Race as well.
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Old 01-12-2005, 12:08 PM
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Yeah, stock is gay. It's basically the novice class and you should move up when you learn to drive. I hate to see a lot of fast guys beating up on all the new guys. When you first got into this hobby, did you want to always run the slowest cars?

Lately I've seen a lot more mod classes at club levels, but I still see a lot of the fast guys sandbagging at big races.

I think that making two modified classes at big races would bring mod back. A factory mod and normal mod. And 19T is not mod, it's as slow as stock, lol.
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Old 01-12-2005, 12:13 PM
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Sponsorship, Sponsorship, Sponsorship, Sponsorship, Sponsorship, Sponsorship, Sponsorship, Sponsorship, Sponsorship, Sponsorship, Sponsorship, Sponsorship, Sponsorship, Sponsorship, Sponsorship, Sponsorship, Sponsorship, Sponsorship, Sponsorship, Need I say more?
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Brown-nose-er-ship?? What's that?
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Old 01-12-2005, 12:18 PM
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I touched on this a little bit over in the ROAR section.

http://www.rctech.net/forum/showthre...&pagenumber=17

Simply, set up a Premier class to get the top 30-40 full blown factory guys out of modified. This may encourage those guys in stock to bump up.
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I see this as part of the reason for 19T class and sportsman.

However, we don't need 200 classes.

Some may say that the rule should be NO Sponsored drivers in stock.

Then the issue is who is considered a sponsored driver?

I prefer to run mod, you want to a faster motor, drop a wind.

That takes the battery/brush/motor/???? of the week out of the picture.


Companies have started marketing more towards stock I beleive.
Which is what the average weekend racer runs.

And yes, I have noticed this also.
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i hear ya Ray it's been a problem for a while. we have been talking about this on Roar prez thread for a while.
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I agree-sponsors pick up Stock teams and they must run stock at big races-team orders!!! I am in no way opposed to it-as long as they push them to mod after a couple years and move up another batch of less talented or less experienced drivers.
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I guess it depends on where you race. Stock, is for the most part, cheaper than Mod. I feel on the club level more mod racing should be done, but it is more expensive. You wear tires faster, and it is harder on the cars. Everything is stressed far more by the added power.

Plus to run Mod on a club level, you need a group of guys who are willing, and more importantly ABLE, to run as well. I know there are a few tracks where that's not an issue. There are others however, that have 2 or 3 drivers who can run Mod, and the rest of the field just can't cut it.

I personally like running stock with the big dogs. It makes those who aren't ready to move to Mod faster.

I think that moving the fast guys out of stock could create a bigger gap between stock and Mod because it will be harder for the stock drivers to guage how their performance compares to the others they race with.
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yes Cypress-its true -we DONT want a slow, untalented stock class. Stock racing is very tight, very comptitive and its a LOT of fun. Look at the NOvak Race or the Champs-guys down as far as the 30th place who have a shot at the A-with one run that uses all there talent.

Its a tough thread to start-but I hope I learn a lot from it.
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Good points Ray
Just this year I have began to run Mod 1/12th, Somehow I stay alot more awake with a faster car lol
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Mod is definately fast fun and exciting. I love hearing my 8x1 wind up down the straight....BUT.....it's expensive!! Mod is very taxing on your gear. For us working stiffs the added cost of Mod is not worth it.
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Some people stay in stock as it is cheaper on tires, motors and repairs if you break something. Mod is good fun but you need to spend more money (i think) to stay at the top (tires etc).I race stock and it's good fun but competitive at the same time and it's not to expensive

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