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Old 07-03-2010, 06:43 PM
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Anyone seen that commercial on TV with the white Lexus sports car revving up the engine and shattering a crystal glass placed in front of the exhaust pipe?
Not a bad advertisement....

Got the new Car & Driver and had an article on the new car dubbed the LFA.
Then the shocker......a $379,000 price tag.
This coming from a company who can BARELY keep a line of cars on the road without recalling them every other week. (in case anyone is not following, Lexus is Toyota's "luxury" brand)

I would also like to say that this supercar is one of the best looking and impressive cars I've ever seen from any manufacturer but there are 3 things seriously wrong with this whole thing.

1- $400,000 after taxes is ridiculous. It posts some great numbers but is slower than the Ferrari 599GTB in every category yet costs $50,000 more....
2- They have been developing this car for Lord knows how long while in the meantime over a million of there normal cars are at risk of killing people for no reason for things that never should have been a problem in the first place.
3- They are not "selling" these to anyone. 500 are being produced over 2 years if I remember correctly and potential customers have to apply to get one. And even after dropping half a million bucks the owner doesn't even get the title to the damn thing for 2 years! Lexus corp will retain the legal ownership of the car. They are choosing who to give these cars to by analyzing where the buyer lives, what other cars he/she owns, what places they frequent, etc. Ok, if I have the cash to drop $400k on a car I am not going to "apply" to purchase anything. I'm either buying it or not.
Only other time I've heard of this is with the Ferrari F50 and I'm sorry but as nice as this car is.......Lexus and Ferrari are on WAY different levels.

And one other odd thing, the car doesn't come out for 2 years officially yet they are advertising it like Joe Blow can walk down to the nearest dealership and test drive it.....

GORGEOUS car but I am curious WTF they are thinking over there.

And sadly, Lexus top testing engineer/pilot was killed driving one of these on an average road in Europe near the Nurburgring.

http://www.nydailynews.com/money/201...an_buy_it.html

http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2009...ight-in-tokyo/
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It could be worse.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari_FXX
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they are attempting to provide special customer service just like any other handbuilt, custom fitted car is done.

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I don't know if anybody watches Top gear or not but the car is more than just a super car. The v10 engine is comes with revs so fast that analog tacks cant keep up so it has a full lcd tach to keep up. Lt drives like a caddy but handles like a farari and is a engineers wet dream it has everything you can put in a car. If I had alot of money to blow and was in the market I would pick this before a farari. Because the ones that can beat this ride very stiff most have no radio and need rebuilt after 15000 mi.
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Also its been made clear on Top Gear that lexus is actualy loseing money on every one they sell. It is just a test to see what they could build.
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Originally Posted by 95lscoupe View Post
Also its been made clear on Top Gear that lexus is actualy loseing money on every one they sell. It is just a test to see what they could build.
And they built such a good F1 car...
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Originally Posted by C_O_jones View Post
And they built such a good F1 car...
Oooh low blow.

Very true though,
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I strongly feel that this car is amazing in design, capabilities, looks, etc but what I don't get is how a run of the mill, ordinary manufacturer just jumps into the supercar market with a $400k vehicle and advertises it on TV???

How many Lambo commercials you see? How long has Ferrari, Lamborghini, Maserati, McLaren, etc been making these cars? And other than that FXX (Saw Steve Wynn's in Vegas at his Ferrari dealership and WOW!) none of these manufacturers gives a damn what restaurant you eat at!

Awesome car but I really think Lexus has gone WAY out of their zone with this.
Priced at $100-125k I could see this working out for them but losing money or not, this price is ridiculous and advertising it to "normal" people is an insult to the lucky few who are able to buy one!
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They're not advertising it to "normal" people, they're using it to advertise Lexus. It's not much different than a car manufacturer sponsoring a prototype-class racing team. They're promoting the company, not the million-dollar car the sticker's actually applied to. And as others have said, the car's just an engineering experiment right up there with the Bugatti Veyron.

It's the whole "if we can make something do THIS, imagine what the rest of our products are capable of" train of thought
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That's right.

It's no secret that the lowly Ford Escort's purpose was to bring the brand (as a "world car") to the last of the countries that didn't have Fords. It was a resounding success, and never made a dime in profit. It was never meant to.
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To bad The Chrysler ME 4 was way more impressive, and the only reason why it was not produced was it outperformed The Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren (parent company). You would think that Lexus would have raised the bar..and it took Chrysler only 1 year to produce the car and it was going to be in 250k range. and before you guys start slamming the ME-4, read up on it first..0 to 60 in 2.9 seconds is impressive as is the 240 mph top speed..
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To bad The Chrysler ME 4 was way more impressive, and the only reason why it was not produced was it outperformed The Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren (parent company). You would think that Lexus would have raised the bar..and it took Chrysler only 1 year to produce the car and it was going to be in 250k range. and before you guys start slamming the ME-4, read up on it first..0 to 60 in 2.9 seconds is impressive as is the 240 mph top speed..
That kind of thing is common. Back in the 60's, John DeLorean and the Pontiac staff were working on their own 2 seat sports car but GM wouldn't let them build something that would outrun the Corvette so they had to settle for rebadging a Camaro.
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To bad The Chrysler ME 4 was way more impressive, and the only reason why it was not produced was it outperformed The Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren (parent company). You would think that Lexus would have raised the bar..and it took Chrysler only 1 year to produce the car and it was going to be in 250k range. and before you guys start slamming the ME-4, read up on it first..0 to 60 in 2.9 seconds is impressive as is the 240 mph top speed..
Good point bringing up the ME 412. I forgot about that car. Very nice and not surprising it surpasses the SLR McLaren.
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The LFA sounds horrible! Its like a formula one with a runny nose. It is a huge waste of money! There are many better things you could buy with that money! (Mabye a nice rolls! )
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Originally Posted by OTE_TheMissile View Post
They're not advertising it to "normal" people, they're using it to advertise Lexus. It's not much different than a car manufacturer sponsoring a prototype-class racing team. They're promoting the company, not the million-dollar car the sticker's actually applied to. And as others have said, the car's just an engineering experiment right up there with the Bugatti Veyron.

It's the whole "if we can make something do THIS, imagine what the rest of our products are capable of" train of thought
This is EXACTLY what they're doing, they wanted to create a "Halo" car, much like Bugatti did with the Veyron. It's an image car, meant to impress potential customers with their technology, & meant to bolster their confidence in their other cars. Oh, & btw, Neu_Racer, Ferrari has been doing something like that "lease" system for some time now. For the most part, a customer cannot just buy an FXX, they pay to have the right to drive one here & there, & according to the guys from Top Gear, they can't even keep the FXX at their homes, Ferrari keeps them at their factory & ships it to whatever track the "owner" want s to drive it on(with a crew onhand). The customer just gets to drive it from time to time, but can't drive it home. As impressive as that car is, I really wouldn't want to spend that kind of money on a car I can't take home even once. And as expensive as the Veyron is(which is over 1.5 MILLION US dollars), at least that's one that you can take home or drive anywhere you want....
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