19Likes2019/2020 WCICS Official Thread
09-03-2019, 05:20 PM
#1
2019/2020 WCICS Official Thread
Welcome to another season of racing in Western Canada. This year marks some big changes as Josh Carter has stepped down to pursue a new job in the USA. As you all can imagine Josh has left some really big shoes to fill. This season will look and feel different without him, but with that said, he has basically left us a successful model to follow for years to come. Thanks again Josh Carter for all the years and countless hours you have dedicated to making racing in Western Canada the best it possibly can.
Lance Radke of Regina SK is the new president of WCICS going into the 28th season of the series. The original plan was that he would be the VP for this year and Josh would mentor him for the role of president next season. unfortunately that all changed rather quickly. So as Lance has limited experience with his new role, He will be leaning on myself and the other reps for advice and structure as we get this exciting season started. So please keep this in mind. Josh has made it clear he is just a phone call away if we need anything.
Sponsors
2019/2020
Event Sponsors:
Red Bull Canada
PROTOform
Sweep Racing
Grip Works R/C
RC Maker
ORCA
Corperate Sponsors:
Red Bull Canada
Catch 22 Media
Best Western Hotels
Discount Vehicle Rentals
TC Stock Class
TC Mod Class
12th Mod Class
12th Stock Class
F1 Class
WCICS Scale Spec (USGT/CTA/GT) Class
Season Schedule
The very tentative schedule is below, and I'll be filling in the date confirmations when the remaining clubs have confirmation of their venue bookings. ( Reps please PM me via RC TECH with your confirmed dates and locations please so i can update this thread ASAP )
NOTE: Every club could have venue booking issues, so the dates are just early estimates until it says CONFIRMED:
September 28-29th Jon -Nascar, Edmonton AB (Aviation Hangar.) Confirmed
October 25-27: Dennis Beck-SarCar, Saskatoon, SK ( LLOYDMINSTER AB) Servus Sports Center Confirmed
November 29- Dec1: Earl Towsend-Kelowna, Confirmed
January 10-12 th: Blake Bell-IROCC, Victoria, BC Confirmed
Jan 31- Feb 2: Lance Radke-Fastraxx, Regina, SK NEW LOCATION: 381 Maxwell Crescent, Regina SK (FYI: Shows up as Source Showroom on Google Maps/Street View, but it's empty now)
Feb 21-23 Ryan Berry One10 RC Raceway Edmonton AB Confirmed
March 6-8th: Jason Mardon-TVRCRC, Kamloops, BC Confirmed
April 3-5th: Sammy Ree CarCar, Calgary, AB Confirmed
Weekend Schedule
Friday: Setup, registration, practice and Drivers Meeting 9pm.
Saturday: 3 rounds of qualifying, (note: resort after EVERY round). The final qualifying order set Sat night after round 3 will be kept for all the mains on Sunday.
Sunday: Any Shootout/Deathmatch runs, then 3 full rounds of mains, tons of RACING!
Rules
Full rules will be posted on WCICS.ca website when they become official on Sept 1, but here's what was discussed and voted on at the AGM:
1. Mini: Removed as an official class. As a replacement, recommendation is to run
Euro truck (box stock with bearings) as your demo class to gauge
registrations for possibly adding as an official class next season.
2. F1: Goes to 25.5t motors.
3. 1yr transition of Exec to "New Blood!":
a. Lance Radke is Now the acting WCICS President,
b. Dennis Beck, New Competition Director and will transition
from Korgae Scales at the end of this upcoming season.
c. James Ryan has taken the open position of Sponsorship and social media.
Social Media Director.
Tires- Each event will now purchase WCICS Spec event tires direct from Sweep Racing. Each club will be responsible for marking sets of tires with our series security decal and barcode. Racers wishing to re use "marked Tires" at another event within the current season are now responsible for transporting them in their own sealable envelope from event to event. The driver is responsible for having the WCICS Rep at the current event, seal and sign the envelope. At the next event the driver wishes to use his tires, he must find the WCICS Rep of that event and have them open the tires and place them directly in tech for that event's security decal. A $5.00 fee will now be charged for this process per event that will go directly to that current event. The racer must complete this process for each event he wishes to use his tires at.
* Tires must be purchased at a event this year in order to re use them.
* You can not provide your own unmarked tires to tech.
* If there is any evidence of tampering, The Competition Director/RD or WCICS Rep has the right to stop the use of those tires and you are required to buy new tires at the next event. If this is mid event, you will be disqualified from the event.
* The reps have all been discussing and hammering out this new format above for the last 4 weeks, everyone is up to speed and if you have any comments or questions, please send them direct to your current WCICS city rep.
As always, this is a non-profit series, and everything here is a direct result of the hard work of all the volunteers (reps, RD's, tech, WCICS Exec, WCICS Directors, club exec, etc). If you have comments, keep it in mind and be kind! This season was exceptionally polite and considerate, we love it and want to keep the good feelings rolling!
Korgae Scales
WCICS Competition Director.
Lance Radke of Regina SK is the new president of WCICS going into the 28th season of the series. The original plan was that he would be the VP for this year and Josh would mentor him for the role of president next season. unfortunately that all changed rather quickly. So as Lance has limited experience with his new role, He will be leaning on myself and the other reps for advice and structure as we get this exciting season started. So please keep this in mind. Josh has made it clear he is just a phone call away if we need anything.
Sponsors
2019/2020
Event Sponsors:
Red Bull Canada
PROTOform
Sweep Racing
Grip Works R/C
RC Maker
ORCA
Corperate Sponsors:
Red Bull Canada
Catch 22 Media
Best Western Hotels
Discount Vehicle Rentals
TC Stock Class
TC Mod Class
12th Mod Class
12th Stock Class
F1 Class
WCICS Scale Spec (USGT/CTA/GT) Class
Season Schedule
The very tentative schedule is below, and I'll be filling in the date confirmations when the remaining clubs have confirmation of their venue bookings. ( Reps please PM me via RC TECH with your confirmed dates and locations please so i can update this thread ASAP )
NOTE: Every club could have venue booking issues, so the dates are just early estimates until it says CONFIRMED:
September 28-29th Jon -Nascar, Edmonton AB (Aviation Hangar.) Confirmed
October 25-27: Dennis Beck-SarCar, Saskatoon, SK ( LLOYDMINSTER AB) Servus Sports Center Confirmed
November 29- Dec1: Earl Towsend-Kelowna, Confirmed
January 10-12 th: Blake Bell-IROCC, Victoria, BC Confirmed
Jan 31- Feb 2: Lance Radke-Fastraxx, Regina, SK NEW LOCATION: 381 Maxwell Crescent, Regina SK (FYI: Shows up as Source Showroom on Google Maps/Street View, but it's empty now)
Feb 21-23 Ryan Berry One10 RC Raceway Edmonton AB Confirmed
March 6-8th: Jason Mardon-TVRCRC, Kamloops, BC Confirmed
April 3-5th: Sammy Ree CarCar, Calgary, AB Confirmed
Weekend Schedule
Friday: Setup, registration, practice and Drivers Meeting 9pm.
Saturday: 3 rounds of qualifying, (note: resort after EVERY round). The final qualifying order set Sat night after round 3 will be kept for all the mains on Sunday.
Sunday: Any Shootout/Deathmatch runs, then 3 full rounds of mains, tons of RACING!
Rules
Full rules will be posted on WCICS.ca website when they become official on Sept 1, but here's what was discussed and voted on at the AGM:
1. Mini: Removed as an official class. As a replacement, recommendation is to run
Euro truck (box stock with bearings) as your demo class to gauge
registrations for possibly adding as an official class next season.
2. F1: Goes to 25.5t motors.
3. 1yr transition of Exec to "New Blood!":
a. Lance Radke is Now the acting WCICS President,
b. Dennis Beck, New Competition Director and will transition
from Korgae Scales at the end of this upcoming season.
c. James Ryan has taken the open position of Sponsorship and social media.
Social Media Director.
Tires- Each event will now purchase WCICS Spec event tires direct from Sweep Racing. Each club will be responsible for marking sets of tires with our series security decal and barcode. Racers wishing to re use "marked Tires" at another event within the current season are now responsible for transporting them in their own sealable envelope from event to event. The driver is responsible for having the WCICS Rep at the current event, seal and sign the envelope. At the next event the driver wishes to use his tires, he must find the WCICS Rep of that event and have them open the tires and place them directly in tech for that event's security decal. A $5.00 fee will now be charged for this process per event that will go directly to that current event. The racer must complete this process for each event he wishes to use his tires at.
* Tires must be purchased at a event this year in order to re use them.
* You can not provide your own unmarked tires to tech.
* If there is any evidence of tampering, The Competition Director/RD or WCICS Rep has the right to stop the use of those tires and you are required to buy new tires at the next event. If this is mid event, you will be disqualified from the event.
* The reps have all been discussing and hammering out this new format above for the last 4 weeks, everyone is up to speed and if you have any comments or questions, please send them direct to your current WCICS city rep.
As always, this is a non-profit series, and everything here is a direct result of the hard work of all the volunteers (reps, RD's, tech, WCICS Exec, WCICS Directors, club exec, etc). If you have comments, keep it in mind and be kind! This season was exceptionally polite and considerate, we love it and want to keep the good feelings rolling!
Korgae Scales
WCICS Competition Director.
Last edited by Korgae; 01-01-2020 at 11:28 AM.
09-03-2019, 05:53 PM
#2
Tech Adept
PM Sent.
Jon
Jon
09-04-2019, 07:09 AM
#3
Just wondering if the spec tire program is going to change or remain the same as previous years?
Thanks
Thanks
09-04-2019, 07:52 PM
#7
Tech Fanatic
I have not heard anything of the sort. For what it's worth, the Sweep QTS32, QTS28, and QTS32BK that have been used in the WCICS series since I've been racing (2014) have all been the same medium carbon insert.
09-04-2019, 10:43 PM
#8
Tech Adept
FWIW. I have been told that Edmonton would be getting the old stock of tires..
09-05-2019, 08:37 PM
#9
This questions is directed at the current Competition Director:
1. Are the tires that are planning to be used at the upcoming Edmonton WCICS race the Left Over Tires from last years (2018-2019) series? If yes, how many sets are left?
2. Is there a chance that those Left Over Tires could be potentially another season old (2 years old)?
As I was under the assumption that the tires that aren’t used in the series each season are returned to Sweeps and a new batch is ordered before the next season starts so that the tires are consist thru out the season series. So why aren’t these tires returned to Sweeps for a new batch?
If the answer to the first question is yes, and I’m also under the assumption there aren’t enough sets to make it thru the season, that means a new batch will be ordered sometime midway thru the series and they will not be the same as those current “old tires” that are trying to be pawned off Edmonton.
If you tell me it doesn’t matter as everyone at the race will be using the same tire, what about the racers who want to reuse tires for future races in the series that will not be running the same batch tires in future races. May not matter to the “fast guys” who run new sets every race but us “B” main level guys and lower sometimes just wanna go out and have fun but fair fun with a used bagged tire for the next race that’s the same being used at the next race.
If it hasn’t been said before, I appreciate anyone who volunteers for any volunteer position. But if you do volunteer, sometimes the $h#t hits the fan but you still gotta deal with it.
Regardless of whatever you tell me, I still plan on racing. I’m just looking for transparency and I’m sure others are too.
Ivan
1. Are the tires that are planning to be used at the upcoming Edmonton WCICS race the Left Over Tires from last years (2018-2019) series? If yes, how many sets are left?
2. Is there a chance that those Left Over Tires could be potentially another season old (2 years old)?
As I was under the assumption that the tires that aren’t used in the series each season are returned to Sweeps and a new batch is ordered before the next season starts so that the tires are consist thru out the season series. So why aren’t these tires returned to Sweeps for a new batch?
If the answer to the first question is yes, and I’m also under the assumption there aren’t enough sets to make it thru the season, that means a new batch will be ordered sometime midway thru the series and they will not be the same as those current “old tires” that are trying to be pawned off Edmonton.
If you tell me it doesn’t matter as everyone at the race will be using the same tire, what about the racers who want to reuse tires for future races in the series that will not be running the same batch tires in future races. May not matter to the “fast guys” who run new sets every race but us “B” main level guys and lower sometimes just wanna go out and have fun but fair fun with a used bagged tire for the next race that’s the same being used at the next race.
If it hasn’t been said before, I appreciate anyone who volunteers for any volunteer position. But if you do volunteer, sometimes the $h#t hits the fan but you still gotta deal with it.
Regardless of whatever you tell me, I still plan on racing. I’m just looking for transparency and I’m sure others are too.
Ivan
09-06-2019, 08:35 AM
#10
Ivan,
From the WCICS rule book: Spec Tires: TC Sweep QTS32N True Black, WGT spec, VTA HPI tires. For TC classes the spec tires will be purchased at the race, and will be marked specifically at each race.
From the WCICS rule book: Spec Tires: TC Sweep QTS32N True Black, WGT spec, VTA HPI tires. For TC classes the spec tires will be purchased at the race, and will be marked specifically at each race.
This questions is directed at the current Competition Director:
1. Are the tires that are planning to be used at the upcoming Edmonton WCICS race the Left Over Tires from last years (2018-2019) series? If yes, how many sets are left? Yes, I personally do not have the tires, therefore do not have an exact count, should be in the 80-90 range.
2. Is there a chance that those Left Over Tires could be potentially another season old (2 years old)? No
As I was under the assumption that the tires that aren’t used in the series each season are returned to Sweeps and a new batch is ordered before the next season starts so that the tires are consist thru out the season series. So why aren’t these tires returned to Sweeps for a new batch? Incorrect, No where in the rules does it say that will be done. I think you are confusing Josh's good gesture of bank rolling the tire order in past years.( roughly $10,000 CND dollars ) That was a personal decision Josh did to make the series run a bit smoother, It was never mandated. No where does it say or specify that a fresh batch must be used from season to season. Please keep in mind that these tires were last used 5 short months ago in Calgary and are no more than 12 months old, packaged in plastic bags. There is no date code or expiry date on the tires and Sweep has confirmed no change to the wheel/insert or tire compound.
If the answer to the first question is yes, and I’m also under the assumption there aren’t enough sets to make it thru the season, that means a new batch will be ordered sometime midway thru the series and they will not be the same as those current “old tires” that are trying to be pawned off Edmonton. As mentioned in my 1st post, WCICS will have a different look this year, This is one of them, Again, the rules state that Sweep tires will be provided, and sold through the clubs for the series, Orders are currently in with Sweep for the rest of the season. Again, this is common practice at any large race. Tires are sent direct to a race from the tire provider.
If you tell me it doesn’t matter as everyone at the race will be using the same tire, what about the racers who want to reuse tires for future races in the series that will not be running the same batch tires in future races. May not matter to the “fast guys” who run new sets every race but us “B” main level guys and lower sometimes just wanna go out and have fun but fair fun with a used bagged tire for the next race that’s the same being used at the next race. Again the rule stands, You are using a Sweep Spec Tire: TC Sweep QTS32N True Black, if you want to re use a tire for the rest of the season, by all means do it. As you said this racer is probably more out for a good time and happy to turn laps and race with his buddies.
If it hasn’t been said before, I appreciate anyone who volunteers for any volunteer position. But if you do volunteer, sometimes the $h#t hits the fan but you still gotta deal with it.
Thank you but you are again confusing Josh's good will and really showcasing how much extra he did for the series behind the scenes. I don't know anyone in the local RC community that is willing to put time, money and passion into a toy car series to the capacity he did. Remember there was no profit for him, it was all passion and the desire to see the series run as smooth as possible.
Regardless of whatever you tell me, I still plan on racing. I’m just looking for transparency and I’m sure others are too.
Ivan
1. Are the tires that are planning to be used at the upcoming Edmonton WCICS race the Left Over Tires from last years (2018-2019) series? If yes, how many sets are left? Yes, I personally do not have the tires, therefore do not have an exact count, should be in the 80-90 range.
2. Is there a chance that those Left Over Tires could be potentially another season old (2 years old)? No
As I was under the assumption that the tires that aren’t used in the series each season are returned to Sweeps and a new batch is ordered before the next season starts so that the tires are consist thru out the season series. So why aren’t these tires returned to Sweeps for a new batch? Incorrect, No where in the rules does it say that will be done. I think you are confusing Josh's good gesture of bank rolling the tire order in past years.( roughly $10,000 CND dollars ) That was a personal decision Josh did to make the series run a bit smoother, It was never mandated. No where does it say or specify that a fresh batch must be used from season to season. Please keep in mind that these tires were last used 5 short months ago in Calgary and are no more than 12 months old, packaged in plastic bags. There is no date code or expiry date on the tires and Sweep has confirmed no change to the wheel/insert or tire compound.
If the answer to the first question is yes, and I’m also under the assumption there aren’t enough sets to make it thru the season, that means a new batch will be ordered sometime midway thru the series and they will not be the same as those current “old tires” that are trying to be pawned off Edmonton. As mentioned in my 1st post, WCICS will have a different look this year, This is one of them, Again, the rules state that Sweep tires will be provided, and sold through the clubs for the series, Orders are currently in with Sweep for the rest of the season. Again, this is common practice at any large race. Tires are sent direct to a race from the tire provider.
If you tell me it doesn’t matter as everyone at the race will be using the same tire, what about the racers who want to reuse tires for future races in the series that will not be running the same batch tires in future races. May not matter to the “fast guys” who run new sets every race but us “B” main level guys and lower sometimes just wanna go out and have fun but fair fun with a used bagged tire for the next race that’s the same being used at the next race. Again the rule stands, You are using a Sweep Spec Tire: TC Sweep QTS32N True Black, if you want to re use a tire for the rest of the season, by all means do it. As you said this racer is probably more out for a good time and happy to turn laps and race with his buddies.
If it hasn’t been said before, I appreciate anyone who volunteers for any volunteer position. But if you do volunteer, sometimes the $h#t hits the fan but you still gotta deal with it.
Thank you but you are again confusing Josh's good will and really showcasing how much extra he did for the series behind the scenes. I don't know anyone in the local RC community that is willing to put time, money and passion into a toy car series to the capacity he did. Remember there was no profit for him, it was all passion and the desire to see the series run as smooth as possible.
Regardless of whatever you tell me, I still plan on racing. I’m just looking for transparency and I’m sure others are too.
Ivan
Last edited by Korgae; 09-06-2019 at 04:48 PM.
09-06-2019, 10:09 AM
#11
If there is a tire issue for the first race. Since the rims are marked as such, could we not let anyone, if they chose to, to bring a set from last years series to run at this first race. Sure they won't be fresh tires, (like it matters), but I'm sure there are quite a few of us that have leftovers from last year that would still be good to run at this event. Just have them checked at tech to make sure nothing is out of spec on the tire and race.
If its a supply issue, that is.
If its a supply issue, that is.
09-07-2019, 08:11 AM
#13
Thanks so much for the prompt response Korgae, it is much appreciated.
Again the rule stands, You are using a Sweep Spec Tire: TC Sweep QTS32N True Black, if you want to re use a tire for the rest of the season, by all means do it. As you said this racer is probably more out for a good time and happy to turn laps and race with his buddies.
This is a great rule for us average racers out to have a good time. Would suck to see WCICS change this rule as the more serious racer would do the one tire per race thing. And we all know it’s the average racers that make and pay for the races.
Thank you but you are again confusing Josh's good will and really showcasing how much extra he did for the series behind the scenes. I don't know anyone in the local RC community that is willing to put time, money and passion into a toy car series to the capacity he did. Remember there was no profit for him, it was all passion and the desire to see the series run as smooth as possible.
Wow. What a great guy!
So I’m hearing all the profit from the tire sales go back into WCICS for the season ending trophies, which along with some of the tote supplies / shipping are the major expenses for the series. So how much does this cost?
So if the profit from each tire sale is say $5 and each season we do 300 (I think it went to 500 at one point) sets of tires…..that’s a great haul from the sales going back to WCICS. And I remember sponsors giving some money too!
So my question is WCICS a non-profit organization? And can I as a regular WCICS racer and supporter see the financials please?
Looking forward to the season and it’s good to see what I’m dealing with as the rules are set in stone as of September 1, 2019.
Ivan
Again the rule stands, You are using a Sweep Spec Tire: TC Sweep QTS32N True Black, if you want to re use a tire for the rest of the season, by all means do it. As you said this racer is probably more out for a good time and happy to turn laps and race with his buddies.
This is a great rule for us average racers out to have a good time. Would suck to see WCICS change this rule as the more serious racer would do the one tire per race thing. And we all know it’s the average racers that make and pay for the races.
Thank you but you are again confusing Josh's good will and really showcasing how much extra he did for the series behind the scenes. I don't know anyone in the local RC community that is willing to put time, money and passion into a toy car series to the capacity he did. Remember there was no profit for him, it was all passion and the desire to see the series run as smooth as possible.
Wow. What a great guy!
So I’m hearing all the profit from the tire sales go back into WCICS for the season ending trophies, which along with some of the tote supplies / shipping are the major expenses for the series. So how much does this cost?
So if the profit from each tire sale is say $5 and each season we do 300 (I think it went to 500 at one point) sets of tires…..that’s a great haul from the sales going back to WCICS. And I remember sponsors giving some money too!
Looking forward to the season and it’s good to see what I’m dealing with as the rules are set in stone as of September 1, 2019.
Ivan
09-07-2019, 10:07 AM
#14
Thanks so much for the prompt response Korgae, it is much appreciated.
So my question is WCICS a non-profit organization? And can I as a regular WCICS racer and supporter see the financials please?
Looking forward to the season and it’s good to see what I’m dealing with as the rules are set in stone as of September 1, 2019.
Ivan
So my question is WCICS a non-profit organization? And can I as a regular WCICS racer and supporter see the financials please?
Looking forward to the season and it’s good to see what I’m dealing with as the rules are set in stone as of September 1, 2019.
Ivan
Hi Ivan,
Sorry I am unable to answer your questions as that is not my department or responsibly. I would ask you to reach out to your current Calgary rep for the answer to your question and also please direct any further questions in regards to the series to him as well. Please monitor this thread for series updates or again reach out to your rep who can also notify you of any changes to the series voted on by the reps.
Thank you.
09-12-2019, 04:55 PM
#15
Tech Fanatic
SARCAR would like to announce that our WCICS race will be the Weekend of October 25-27. Would someone please update the main post with this date?
HOWEVER, our race will be held in LLOYDMINSTER at the Servus Sports Center with help from the IRTC club in Lloydminster. There is a Best Western Plus hotel attached to the Servus Sports Center which IRTC has negotiated discounted rates for WCICS competitors ($109/night vs $149). Hopefully the closer distance to the Alberta and BC clubs will entice more competitors to make the trip!
I will make an official thread for our event with more info once it becomes available (hopefully tonight or tomorrow).
-Dennis Beck
HOWEVER, our race will be held in LLOYDMINSTER at the Servus Sports Center with help from the IRTC club in Lloydminster. There is a Best Western Plus hotel attached to the Servus Sports Center which IRTC has negotiated discounted rates for WCICS competitors ($109/night vs $149). Hopefully the closer distance to the Alberta and BC clubs will entice more competitors to make the trip!
I will make an official thread for our event with more info once it becomes available (hopefully tonight or tomorrow).
-Dennis Beck
