beware of Jeff Sater

Old 11-08-2005, 01:56 PM
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If anybody lives near this guy, or plans to do any dealings, I want you all to know he has taken my stuff and never shipped me this heli. He refuses to answer emails or return phone calls. The police have been contacted in his area. I have filed a complaint with rcu allready and will be pasting this info around the internet everywhere to protect others and hope someone can help me out.
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jeff sater
258 pico vista
novato, CA 94947
USA
[email protected]

4155951587 cell and 4158978737 home.

yes I should have worried about the email but all his info checked out in a 411 search
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Old 11-08-2005, 01:56 PM
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Well after I got some info on this guy and had people attempt contact and some were going to stop by, he finally emails me back.... I will just paste the last 2 emails here. it's good because he has admitted that he never shipped the heli (though last contact he was going to ship it on Oct 27 with money he borrowed then disappeared as he got the boat (his part of the trade)


dude, what the (pottie mouth) are you doing? are you (pottie mouth)ing stupid. now you might not get it. i told you i was broke and i would send it when i get some money. well i just started working again and i am waiting a pay check. i have been away from my computer all last week. now im on it again and i see this. what the (pottie mouth)? you are the asshole. ive already explained myself to you. so well just see what happens? if i even see a cop near or around my street, you will not get the copter. so how you feel about that.

Jeffrey C Sater


-----Original Message-----
From: Barry Wilson <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:50:17 -0800
Subject: Re: heli


ok I have just finished notifying your local police deptartment. this is getting silly now, I don't want to have to press charges but you are leaving me no choice
Barry

>From: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: heli
>Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 18:07:07 -0400
>MIME-Version: 1.0
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>my girlfriend just got back. she said she is going to give me the money to >ship out the heli. so by tomarrow your package should be on its way.
>
> Jeffrey C Sater
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>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Barry Wilson <[email protected]>
>To: [email protected]
>Sent: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 01:37:09 -0700
>Subject: Re: heli
>
>
>I understand the cash flow thing. am there myself. had to sell a few >things.
>thanks Jeff, I am just anxious to have a heli to tinker with again
>Barry
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> >From: [email protected]
> >To: [email protected]
> >Subject: Re: heli
> >Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 04:06:16 -0400
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> >hey barry. sorry its taking so long. to tell you the truth, im a little > >short of the cash to send it today. i am going to borrow the money > >tomarrow. so dont worry, tomarrow i will have some tracking numbers for > >you. promise bro. im not jacking you up. dont worry im for real. not > >gonna burn you. promse.
> >
> > Jeffrey C Sater




The last email was sent right after as I mentioned I had the private investigator and friends able to swing by...

go ahead asshole. now that you have threatened me you can (pottie mouth) off!

Jeffrey C Sater


-----Original Message-----
From: Barry Wilson <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:06:11 -0800
Subject: Re: heli


Well it is now 4pm and still no word, I guess I have no alternative now but to file charges with your local police department. you do realize mail fraud is an indictable offense? sorry I have no choice now since you don't return either Michael's or my emails and calls.

we can end this now without further complications if you;d just supply me with a tracking number. I think you shipping priority now is definately in order since I have had to wait an extra week with no contact. I also want you to know I have friends in Petaluma and I will be giving them your address and contact info tomorrow.
Barry Wilson
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Old 11-08-2005, 01:57 PM
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well thats good for you. now just try and do all that.

Jeffrey C Sater


-----Original Message-----
From: Barry Wilson <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 13:18:16 -0800
Subject: Re: heli


you totally ignore me when you said you were shipping it, you don't return phone calls, and I am not to believe you have burned me?
the honest thing to do would have been to keep in touch. last thing you said was you had borrowed the money and were shipping the heli. next day the boat arrived to you and you disappear. your (pottie mouth)ing rights I am getting mad. if you can't follow through with what you said, then the least you should have done was let me know..

october 26 is my last contact with you, almost 2 weeks ago you said and I quote as I have saved every email for the police in case this happens...

my girlfriend just got back. she said she is going to give me the money to ship out the heli. so by tomarrow your package should be on its way.

Jeffrey C Sater

so if you shipped it on the 27 like you said you were, and given me the tracking number like you were supposed to, it would have been on the up and up. Michael has called and called, as have other people and you were home sick so it would have taken nothing to send an email. but you with little feedback, chose to avoid me, instead of letting me know.

thanks for that last email by the way, that is perfect evidence for the police you intend to steal and now I have grounds to press charges as you admitted you hadn't sent and don't intend to. pefect. I will call your police department right now and let them know, as well as other agencies. I have the rest of the info from the private investigator. you never intended to ship, it's obvious, but you must have allready figured that I have gone a long ways to ending this, now it shall come to fruition. I am honest, have a great repitation, am bonded and licensed with the attorney general and I know law...
cheers
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Old 11-08-2005, 01:57 PM
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I spoke to the Novato Police Dept today. They had me contact the District Attorney's office. The DA has sent me off all the paperwork to have charges pressed.
While the police won't send out a car for my phone call, the DA instructed me to take all the documentation to my local police and they could contact the novato police and have them "assist" in the investigation and send a car around.

I have 60 emails and contracts on the cd, and have also copied the websites and provided all the people I contacted. This is such a hassle but I can't stop now. This guy has to learn not to steal and all parties I talked to agree and have been very helpful.... just the red tape crap and hoops to jump through. writing a few letters and such is really not all that bad, just the waiting game


if anyone feels like phoning those numbers above to remind him it is serious (and you get free long distance, no sense in it costing you money) it would be appreciated. I will also try calling again myself and maybe explaining to his woman how far out of hand this is getting as she probably doesn't know it is going this far.
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