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Old 08-08-2013, 06:17 PM
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It looks reasonably workable but as designing goes on, i'll find out exactly how practical.
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Hey guys quick question I'm looking at painting a mercedes go f1 and was wondering what silver tamiya colour to use? Part number ? Thanks
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Old 08-16-2013, 12:29 AM
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A heartfelt thank you to everyone who has taken the time to provide input and ideas to the rules process.

Today the proposed rules and voting form was sent to each of the clubs that have adopted the National F1 Rules.

Although voting does not close for 6 weeks I have urged clubs to table these amendments with their committee, or members, as soon as practical.

This vote is the next major milestone on the journey of F1 in Australia. A strong voting turn out by clubs will cement the impression that has been forming that F1 is here to stay!

I encourage everyone reading this to raise the issue with their club and encourage them to vote. If your club doesn't already run the National F1 Rules they can adopt them by sending me an email.

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Originally Posted by cannon View Post
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A great set of rules for a fast growing class

Regarding the motor list ... you allow motors that are on the ROAR BRCA or EFRA lists. EFRA basically follow the BRCA list so effectively we have two lists, ROAR and BRCA.

Regarding ROAR motor lists, ROAR only adds motors to their list that are being sold in the USA thus eliminating a large number of commercially available motors sold throughout SE Asia that still comply with 21.5 regulations.

Has any consideration been made to using the JRCA motor. I realise that this list is in Japanese but can be easily translated (Hiroshi ). This list is very extensive, has most of the ROAR listed motors plus a large number f the motors available throughout Asia. The advantage to this is also the pricing of these motors. They are generally far cheaper than the USA counterparts and thus would help keep the F1 class at a very competitive price point

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http://www.jmrca.jp/motor/2013/pic/motor2013.htm
Thanks for the words of encouragement Greg.

EFRA was considered but rejected because (quote from an earlier RCformula1 post):

"In addition to the BRCA list, EFRA were also considered but EFRAís website states that EFRA do not have a testing procedure but appears to contradict itself by saying they have recently tested a number of 10.5 motors and a list is provided. Their Homologation (approvals) page does not list motors or ESCís. Our preference is to use lists where motors are actually tested."

So as you say we have two lists - ROAR and BRCA.

We did consider the Japanese list, although it wasn't raised on the F1 forum. ShadowAus raised it on the AARCMCC thread and I followed his link to the Japanese motor list. The suggestion certainly has merit but after consideration was rejected for a number of reasons but primarily because of the language barrier. While Google translate is a fantastic tool, the technical rules around motor approval are challenging enough when they are in English. For example the first motor on the 21.5 list is described (via Google translate) as "Application acceptance minute February captive roll brushless 21.5T On The Take".

The fact that we could probably make sense of this via a Japanese speaker was not something we considered at the time. If we went down this path we would need to ensure that we weren't relying on a single person for the translation or we may end up in a similar situation to VORTEC (who chose to have their own 21.5 Blinky list which relies on one person to keep it up to date and which is now out of date).

Another challenge of adding a another list is that racers (and scrutineers) then have lots of lists to check for a motor. I did consider building an online database of motor and ESC lists that people could browse by category, or search, to overcome this problem. Again though racers would be reliant on an individual (me) to update the database with changes to any of the lists. Perhaps if we could get a group of people to keep the database up to date then that issue could be overcome. Anyway I digress

The good news is that any 21.5 remains legal for club racing and for any event that doesn't use the optional event rule. Eg; the Vic Cup Series allows any 21.5.

The current rules specify that any event that uses the optional rule restricts 21.5 motors to the ROAR list. As you say this list doesn't have a number of motors available in Australia. The proposed change will allow motors on the BRCA 21.5 list which adds a number of motors not on the ROAR list, and also any future AARCMCC list and it is this last list which may allow other motors available in Australia. But we will need to wait and see as it currently doesn't exist. If this doesn't pan out then we can look at the Japanese list again next year and look at all the pros and cons of that list.

Lastly, I am also hoping to establish closer ties with F1 groups in China and Japan over the next 12 months which may help.
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All fair enough

I only mentioned the Japanese list as there are a large number of motors on that list priced at Hong Kong pricing rather than the higher USA approved motors thus helping keep this class affordable
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Some of you may be thinking of another vote that's coming up this Saturday - something about a national election? - but the more important vote is right here on next year's F1 rules

First vote has been received:

RC Core (Castle Hill, NSW) has voted Yes to all proposals.

Please remind your clubs that voting closes on Tue 1 Oct. Thanks.
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Second vote has been received:

TFTR (Templestowe, VIC) has voted Yes to all proposals.

Please remind your clubs that voting closes on Tue 1 Oct. Thanks.
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Third vote has been received:

LCRCCC (Logan, QLD) has voted Yes to all proposals except for the Custom Chassis Rules to which they voted "No - do not change the current rule. We do not support the rule as written but believe the concept has merit for further discussion."

Voting closes in just over 2 weeks.

Please remind your clubs that voting closes on Tue 1 Oct. Thanks.
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Fourth vote has been received:

WCMRC (Perth, WA) has voted Yes to all proposals except for the Custom Chassis Rules to which they voted No.

Please remind your clubs that voting closes on Tue 1 Oct. Thanks.
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One week to go. A reminder email has been sent however, the person we are emailing may have changed roles, left the club, be sick, etc. So you can help by following up your clubs committee and asking them to get their vote in

Votes received so far are listed in the posts immediately preceding this one. All other F1 clubs have yet to vote.

Thanks for your assistance.
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Fifth vote has been received:

ACTMCRC (Canberra, ACT) has voted Yes to all proposals.

Please remind your clubs that voting closes on Tue 1 Oct. Thanks.
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Sixth vote has been received:

SCRCCC (Landsbrough, QLD) has voted Yes to all proposals.
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Seventh vote has been received:

WRCCC (Wodonga, VIC) has voted Yes to all proposals.
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Eighth vote has been received:

TMORC (Townsville, QLD) has voted Yes to all proposals.

Voting closes 5pm today.
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Voting Results Summary

Voting has now closed and here are the results.

- 8 clubs returned voting forms
- All clubs voted unanimously to adopt all proposed rule amendments except for the Custom Chassis Rules
- 6 out of 8 clubs voted to adopt the new Custom Chassis Rules and so this was also adopted as a majority of clubs voted to adopt

Therefore all proposed rules will be adopted for 2014.

At RC Formula1 we view this outcome as extremely successful. Here's why:

- 8 clubs returned voting forms out of the 11 clubs that adopted the National Rules. A 72% response rate (really 80% given that OCR Raceway closed its doors earlier this year).

- Each of the 8 clubs voted on the 6 proposals giving 48 votes. 46 of the 48 were Yes votes (95%) showing that the proposed amendments were widely approved of and validating the robust process of consultation used in formulating the rules amendments.

Thank you to everyone who contributed, commented and made us think and re-think about each rule in light of the best way forward for F1 in Australia.

Thanks also to those who took the proposal to their clubs and to the clubs themselves for participating.

The future for F1 in Australia continues to look bright!

The Rules pages on our website have been updated and you can see the Rules which are effective from 1 Jan 2014 here:

http://rcformula1.com.au/index.php/a...471-rules-2014

The current rules of course remain in effect until 1 Jan 2014 and these are shown here.
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