Which Belt Drive?
#16
Tech Adept
you lied to me hahaha
#17
Originally Posted by viet_mafia
thanks for the input dudes, i have ordered myself a TRF415MSX chassis kit from RC Champ i hope it gets here soon
get ready to have a plethora or option parts available. definately a cool looking car. from experience owning a evo 3 surikarn, the ballcups definately need upgrading to a harder less prone to wear type ballcup. i used mugen mtx3 parts with mugen steel balls and it had almost zero play.
#18
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Originally Posted by VenomWorldOrder
get ready to have a plethora or option parts available. definately a cool looking car. from experience owning a evo 3 surikarn, the ballcups definately need upgrading to a harder less prone to wear type ballcup. i used mugen mtx3 parts with mugen steel balls and it had almost zero play.
The Tamiya cars do have a tendancy to develop slop, but a few bucks on replacement ball cups fixes most of it back up, and on track you cant even tell the difference. It just all the tools who worry about it in the pits.
#19
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Originally Posted by Besercoe
Another uneducated post from Thomas the tank, come and have a look at my car, it is a box stock MSX, The only things required except for the kit is a few additional toe blocks if you want to play around with setup.
The Tamiya cars do have a tendancy to develop slop, but a few bucks on replacement ball cups fixes most of it back up, and on track you cant even tell the difference. It just all the tools who worry about it in the pits.
The Tamiya cars do have a tendancy to develop slop, but a few bucks on replacement ball cups fixes most of it back up, and on track you cant even tell the difference. It just all the tools who worry about it in the pits.
The 415's are great and respond to setup changes as expected. They do however wear but unless you are racing high end modifieds, you will have little or no problem with this. The only downside I would give any 415 is that they need to be close to the right setup to work well, otherwise they are difficult to drive.
The X-rays are very reliable. The don't tweak short of breaking something but don't respond to setup changes much at all. Seems this car relies mostly on the right tyres but as a side effect the car is almost always very easy to drive. Best benefit about x-rays is local parts support is usually very good.
I wouldn't touch a cyclone as it seems that only fast drivers get speed out of em, the rest struggle. Simon's is the only oz based driver who I have seen with it workin. Looks to have good potential but a very flexy chassis my not suit all tracks.
RDX looks great but is expensive. I have seen good and bad drivers do well with this car so worth a look if you ain't scared by the price tag.
If you already own a tamiya (evo 4) the msx would be your safest bet as it is very similar to your current car. But tryin something new is always more fun. Best thing is to look at waht your local racers use. You will yhave more fun racing if you have other dirvers helping you with setup and having more spares around is always useful.
#20
Originally Posted by Besercoe
Another uneducated post from Thomas the tank, come and have a look at my car, it is a box stock MSX, The only things required except for the kit is a few additional toe blocks if you want to play around with setup.
The Tamiya cars do have a tendancy to develop slop, but a few bucks on replacement ball cups fixes most of it back up, and on track you cant even tell the difference. It just all the tools who worry about it in the pits.
The Tamiya cars do have a tendancy to develop slop, but a few bucks on replacement ball cups fixes most of it back up, and on track you cant even tell the difference. It just all the tools who worry about it in the pits.
and if you think my comment about the option parts was a negative maybe you should re-read my post. i don't consider this neither a negative or a positive, just a option. Far out, if you care to have seen the amount of useless crap i've done to my T2 maybe you'd realise what i said wasn't neccessarilly a negative. and don't go calling people who "hop up" their cars as morons or whatever, because this is just another phacet of the hobby that people find enjoyable.
maybe you should stop trying to jump down my posts every chance you get, and assuming the worse!!!!!! you're really creating an unpleasant atmosphere for when we race at the same venues and don't tell me that i've already done this with my post you quoted above, or posts before. all i do is give my opinion, one which i've never said or promoted as being THE ALL MIGHTY WORD, or whatever. no one here can attest to that either.
Last edited by VenomWorldOrder; 02-28-2006 at 09:36 PM.
#21
Originally Posted by Dragonfire
I wouldn't touch a cyclone as it seems that only fast drivers get speed out of em, the rest struggle. Simon's is the only oz based driver who I have seen with it workin. Looks to have good potential but a very flexy chassis my not suit all tracks..
annnnyway.....
#22
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Originally Posted by VenomWorldOrder
are you going to jump down dragonfires throat for saying the above? if you're going to attack people do it consistantly. Considering what Troy has said, an argument for the cyclone would be it's performace at TITC. the track was super grippy wasn't it? and 7 i think in the A main? (i'm not arguing here, just stating the TITC results).
annnnyway.....
annnnyway.....
I wouldn't touch a cyclone as it seems that only fast drivers get speed out of em, the rest struggle. Simon's is the only oz based driver who I have seen with it workin. Looks to have good potential but a very flexy chassis my not suit all tracks.
BTW: Tamiya bull cups are fine (low friction grey).. its the ball ends themselves that develop most of the slop. Use the black steel ones for long life or the flourine coated for great performance/weight/wear ratio
#23
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wHICH BELT DRIVE?
This one little query certainly fired up a few people's opinions! I raced Tamiya's for a number of years, and always liked them, just replaced the ball ends occasionally to help tighten things up again, but it's really only a minor issue in my mind. Switched to X-ray about eighteen months ago and have not looked back. Have been running an FK-04 and would be lucky to have spent 50 bucks on replacement parts, and those I have required have been readily available from Custom Model Cars in Penshurst, whose service I have found to be excellent.
#24
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Strongly consider the RDX. It works on rubber or foam out of the box. No hop ups needed, the kit spec is excellent. Sure, it may cost a few bucks more to buy, but doesnt require additional money to tune it, so ultimately will cost you less anyway. Plenty of people run it, distributor support is excellent & results of the car speak for themselves at recent major meetings.
The Xray likewise speaks for itself. It has the results, & likewise has excellent distributor support.
The Cyclone is a cool car & easy to work on. Their distributor is also very good, I called them today for parts for mine that I will get tomorrow, excellent service & the price was good.
The Xray likewise speaks for itself. It has the results, & likewise has excellent distributor support.
The Cyclone is a cool car & easy to work on. Their distributor is also very good, I called them today for parts for mine that I will get tomorrow, excellent service & the price was good.
#25
Originally Posted by Dragonfire
I'll attack your post for brad....
Looks like I mentioned that fast drivers get them to work somehow.. Guess there might be a few fast drivers at TITC, but I could be wrong...
Looks like I mentioned that fast drivers get them to work somehow.. Guess there might be a few fast drivers at TITC, but I could be wrong...
again, lets remember a cars performance at a world class event, driven by a world class driver can be considered the pinacle of the hobby. any results obtained in this environment is the cars optimum performance level. what a newbie does with the car at a club level is probably nowhere as close to what the car is capable of, so it's safe to say that most current belt drive cars are adequate for most. eventually choice will coem down to parts availability, and availability of setup info. ease of use is also integral.
again, i agree with the above Atomix comments regarding RDX. considering it is one of the first brands to go with the current layout style in belt its showing it's ability in design with it's long standing, minimally changed design.
#26
nope u guys got it all wrong hahaha
XRAY T1R
*awaits flammage *
...... only joking
XRAY T1R
*awaits flammage *
...... only joking
#27
Do any of you guys have any......ghetto solutions to a battery strap? Battery strapping tape is a bit on the pricey side and I'm not too sure how much you can reuse it.....
#29
$9!? wats the name of that tape pleease??? All i saw was a big fat roll of 3M strapping tape for something like $30....
#30
Originally Posted by viet_mafia
Do any of you guys have any......ghetto solutions to a battery strap? Battery strapping tape is a bit on the pricey side and I'm not too sure how much you can reuse it.....
Velco battery straps come in various colours and 2 lengths. Supplied by eagle and probably several other companies