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Old 07-04-2016, 04:51 AM
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Default 2016 Newcastle Grand Prix EP Onroad 19th-20th November

Hi All,

Newcastle Grand Prix has been rescheduled for the 19th & 20th November

ENTRIES HAVE NOW CLOSED

Newcastle On Road Radio Control Car Club would like to announce the 6th running of the Newcastle RC Grand Prix.



Grand Prix Rescheduled Race Dates
Newcastle Grand Prix has been rescheduled for the 19th & 20th November

Tyres

1) Retain your marked controlled tyres that you have already purchased and keep these for the rescheduled race meeting on 19th, 20th November.

2) If you have or are intending to use the controlled tyre sets prior to the rescheduled GP meeting you have a choice of keeping & handing those marked used tyres back to the club for holding and to purchase a new controlled set. The used tyres on hold will be returned to the entrant at the completion of the event. This option must be taken prior to the events first race on Sunday 20th November.

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If you are on the current drivers list for todays meeting (Sunday 25th September) we will keep you entered as per the entry list Post #27 for the meeting unless you post otherwise.

All new entries will be accepted via ONLINE ENTRY Entries will close Sunday 13th November 24:00hrs

Hopefully this bad run of weather cannot hit us on 3rd time.

Thanks
Newcastle Onroad Radio Controlled Car Club.


http://newcastleonroadrc.webs.com/

Please open the below attachment for updated details on event information, including control tyre pricing.



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Been to the last 3 Gp's and it has always been great but i think it's a bad move going to controlled tyres especially tyres that are not well known.
It all so makes it to expensive with stock and mod drivers needing 2-3 sets.
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Been to the last 3 Gp's and it has always been great but i think it's a bad move going to controlled tyres especially tyres that are not well known.
It all so makes it to expensive with stock and mod drivers needing 2-3 sets.
+1 agree 100% this is what makes the event so good ( no forced tyre rule )
You could still have restriction on how many sets are used for each class ( as done at the nsw indoor titles at castle hill 2 years ago ) but the choice is on the individual & it worked very well
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The main reasons behind going to control tyres are to a) create an even playing field and b) a "dress rehearsal" for (hopefully) state titles next year.
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Has the entry price and extra tyre price been set yet???
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I understand the even playing field but most run the same tyre anyway either muchmore or volonte so i can't see that there was an issue.
As far as a dress rehearsal for next years state title which i hope you get, do you not think you are taking a huge gamble with this event by hitting the hip pocket of drivers some of which would have just forked out for Aoc weeks before.
I love this event and look forward to it every year but this just seems to much for a non sanctioned race and i think it will affect the entries which would be really sad.
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Originally Posted by JamesT 1/12th View Post
The main reasons behind going to control tyres are to a) create an even playing field and b) a "dress rehearsal" for (hopefully) state titles next year.
Control tyres= same tyre fore everyone,1 type of goop for everyone ,applied at 1 supervised table , that is control & an even playing field, as used at aoc

Forced tyres (what we have here in Aus )= same tyre for everyone, God knows how many different types of goop used throughout the pit area which is not creating an even playing field

Armacc needs to rectify this supposes " control tyre issue " so it is a level playing field not what we currently have

Hope you guys get the state titles next btw
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I remember similar arguments when control tyres were introduced at other events in recent years, and in my opinion, many of these were based on the chosen tyre not being their preferred tyre. Sometimes I think even if the chosen tyre was the best tyre in creation, and it was free, people would still complain. Control tyres are generally accepted at most major events, so why should this event be an issue?
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It's an issue because for the last 4 years it has been an open tyre event which cost $25 to enter and now will cost around $80+1-2 sets of extra tyres depending on what class you enter.
I have no preferred tyre and it would make no difference what brand it was,it's all about cost for a one day event.
Not trying to take anything away from the event but just seems crazy

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I guess it would depend if you were buying new tyres for the event. If you were using tyres you already have, then yes, I see your point. If not, and you were planning to buy new tyres for the race, what's the difference?
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I just don't think this race is big enough yet to have a controlled tyre.
It won't stop me from attending and supporting a great club and track but here are some things to consider.
Will the tyre quantity be limited by class and sets per driver as it should be not including practice sets.
Will the club have 150+ sets to cover the event if entries exceed expectations.

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If you guys are doing control tyres then you also need to limit the quantity allowed during the meet. It won't be an even playing field if someone can afford to run a fresh set every heat.
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My 2 bobs worth, why not just make it a control temp tyre eg 34? that way as long as everyone is using 34's , no probs and no need to spend anymore to enter then. To be honest , i really dont think without a lot of testing in a controlled environment , there would be next to no difference in brands. The track conditions change from week to week so i really dont think anyone would have an advantage running different tyre brands.
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Looking forward to this event. Control tyre ftw!
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Understand the reasons for the control tyre and good luck with that btw. Only concern is the tyre is unknown. Much More, Ride, Volante would be a better pick because more racers use them and understand them (IMHO).

In my case, first time last year and I turned up and raced on the day with 2 sets of Ride 32's and came second in 13.5. Because I knew the tyre it meant I could focus limited track time on car set up. This year it will be the same thing if I can get there, the only problem is trying to sort out set up at the same time as understanding how to make the tyre work.

Like the idea of 10.5 blinky 12th scale though
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