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Old 10-27-2010, 08:24 AM   #391
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I'm used to losing. When I raced at PS, I was just happy if I could run faster than the previous week. That was my main goal. How I finished was almost irrelevant.

The thing about the SPEC class is that it took care of the aspect I hate the most, tires. I hated buying new tires every week and hated guessing if I made the "right choice" of tire for the day. Not only that, if you want to practice, that's another set of tires to burn through. I liked the idea of everyone running the same crappy tires, and having that one set last the entire season.

Whatever, I know it's not Chris's fault, nor is it Jim's fault. Freakin ROAR... shoulda designated a spec tire for 17.5.
I do agree with the tire thing as it is tbe biggest pain in the a$$ for SCT ond to me al types of R/C racing. I think in the end of the day you will see probably two tires that work great so pick one of those two and make them work. I do like the fact though that many guys are all using different combinations and all seem to work. Since 17.5 isn't really much faster alot of the good stock tires I think will work fine with some suspension tuning. The original Slash tires and Blitz tires are ones that I think will work without buying new right away. At least on the front if nothing else.

I do try to use my times from the week before as my shooting point for going faster, especially when I ran my Strike. Striving for a win with it is out of the question alot of the times. Yeah sometimes I had it working but other times, oh well should we say it wasn't always pretty.

I will say at Bumps last year when Brian and Pat pushed me I will say that even in spec I worked on my Slash more than ever to make it fast and changed the shock oils and all the stuff I could change to go faster. Instead of saying they have a better truck out of the box than me I put my head down and worked harder on my Spec Slash than I did in more open classes I ran in other forms of racing. I tried to run better lines and tried to change my driving style some to gain faster laps. Well it worked.

I will say I like the 17.5 class. Do I think my Slash even with the changes and hopups I put on is better than the Blitz, Ultima, SC10, or Losi, no not really but I like the overall challenge to beat my buddies with a truck that might be a little off compared to what they run. For me that is the challenge. If I can keep up and keep it close then I feel I did a great job. If I can't I will keep changing the truck and work harder on my driving and setups to make it keep up. I can't wait for Sunday to at least get the truck on the track and see what happens.
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So is the spec class dead? Looks like a lot more people are in the Pro class.

I was excited last year when I heard about the spec class, but it seems to me the spec class is pretty much dead. I was going to buy a Blitz to run in the spec class, but now everybody is in the Pro class. What's the point if I have to buy a whole bunch of extra stuff (like a BL unit, or new tires every week, a FT kit, or a super fancy steering servo) for that class? I'd rather just race my B4.
No, the new spec class is 1/8 e-scale from what I can see. There appears to be a lot of inexperience jumping into this.
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I do agree with the tire thing as it is tbe biggest pain in the a$$ for SCT ond to me al types of R/C racing. I think in the end of the day you will see probably two tires that work great so pick one of those two and make them work. I do like the fact though that many guys are all using different combinations and all seem to work. Since 17.5 isn't really much faster alot of the good stock tires I think will work fine with some suspension tuning. The original Slash tires and Blitz tires are ones that I think will work without buying new right away. At least on the front if nothing else.

I do try to use my times from the week before as my shooting point for going faster, especially when I ran my Strike. Striving for a win with it is out of the question alot of the times. Yeah sometimes I had it working but other times, oh well should we say it wasn't always pretty.

I will say at Bumps last year when Brian and Pat pushed me I will say that even in spec I worked on my Slash more than ever to make it fast and changed the shock oils and all the stuff I could change to go faster. Instead of saying they have a better truck out of the box than me I put my head down and worked harder on my Spec Slash than I did in more open classes I ran in other forms of racing. I tried to run better lines and tried to change my driving style some to gain faster laps. Well it worked.

I will say I like the 17.5 class. Do I think my Slash even with the changes and hopups I put on is better than the Blitz, Ultima, SC10, or Losi, no not really but I like the overall challenge to beat my buddies with a truck that might be a little off compared to what they run. For me that is the challenge. If I can keep up and keep it close then I feel I did a great job. If I can't I will keep changing the truck and work harder on my driving and setups to make it keep up. I can't wait for Sunday to at least get the truck on the track and see what happens.
That losi strike with decent tires and ball diff probably will not be that bad in 17.5 either.
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Old 10-27-2010, 10:59 PM   #394
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That losi strike with decent tires and ball diff probably will not be that bad in 17.5 either.
I still have it. I to think it can work with some modifications.
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I'm used to losing. When I raced at PS, I was just happy if I could run faster than the previous week. That was my main goal. How I finished was almost irrelevant.

The thing about the SPEC class is that it took care of the aspect I hate the most, tires. I hated buying new tires every week and hated guessing if I made the "right choice" of tire for the day. Not only that, if you want to practice, that's another set of tires to burn through. I liked the idea of everyone running the same crappy tires, and having that one set last the entire season.

Whatever, I know it's not Chris's fault, nor is it Jim's fault. Freakin ROAR... shoulda designated a spec tire for 17.5.
I ran opening day with a spec kyosho ultimaSC. First time I ever ran it. Bang 2nd place. Tires hooked fine, still needs some tuning. But spec class comes down to driving, and not getting hacked to darn bad. I will continue to run spec this year and probably the following years. I put enough into my truggy, it's nice to race a cheap ride and still be competitive, even lacking throttle control...I miss my 4wd pull and aim...lol
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That losi strike with decent tires and ball diff probably will not be that bad in 17.5 either.
When I gonna see you with that strike in here? Whooped me at G' in truggy, u gotta come gunnin for me here too in the spec sct...lol
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No, the new spec class is 1/8 e-scale from what I can see. There appears to be a lot of inexperience jumping into this.
I would have to disagree with this. Last time I went to lcrc we had 18 E-scales and like 10 nitro. The racing was closer and cleaner then the main. We had 5 buggys on the same staight away battleing for 3 place for about 4 mins out of a 10 min electric A main.
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I would have to disagree with this. Last time I went to lcrc we had 18 E-scales and like 10 nitro. The racing was closer and cleaner then the main. We had 5 buggys on the same staight away battleing for 3 place for about 4 mins out of a 10 min electric A main.
I would agree with you at lcrc. How about the weekend at G's Bash though? That is where I saw a totally different class of drivers.
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Freshened up the B4 for this weekend. I guess you can say my paintjob is a Halloween scheme.
Not you cant fool the competition with Mike Gay's scheme.
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Haha yeah I didnt want Mike's sponsors to think he forgot how to drive
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I would agree with you at lcrc. How about the weekend at G's Bash though? That is where I saw a totally different class of drivers.
You can go to a different 8th scale track and you can have truggy guys that cant stay in their lane or flipping over everywhere. So does this make this class a novice class everywhere to you?
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fresh wing and foam things make it even prettier.

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You can go to a different 8th scale track and you can have truggy guys that cant stay in their lane or flipping over everywhere. So does this make this class a novice class everywhere to you?
From what I have seen this summer particularly in e-scale at most of the tracks that I did travel too, I would have to say that is where the novices have moved too. I still agree with you that it's different from track to track, but as a summary of the ten different tracks that I ran at this past summer that is my basic observation.
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