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Old 08-05-2008, 01:44 PM   #3646
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Bob - I think they are still looking into using voltage regulators with the lipo batteries. QUOTE]


I see. Had me worried there for a minute. LOL How does the voltage regulator work? I have never heard of this approach. Thanks Ed.
A voltage regulator would go between the battery and the speeder and limit the voltage from7.4 to 6.4 I assume! I am checking into and researching this heavily at this point. Reason for no motor change is to keep the cost down for some of our "core" racers who may just want to get a LiPo and not have to replace their 13.5's from last year with the higher wind stuff! Keep in mind also that the track WILL be changed as often as the road course and may include at some point a super speedway! I also need to find out how many people will switch to LiPo because if some are not the regulator would have to be in place to keep speeds and voltage equivelant to that of a Nickel pack. Another thing is to make sure that you can run LiPo vs. Nickel fairly without a disadvantage to either for our bigger races when out-of-towners would be coming to race!
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Old 08-05-2008, 03:15 PM   #3647
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Why do you need a voltage regulator? Most offroad racers down here only use them with lipo reciever packs in their 1/8 buggies&truggies to bring them down to 6 volts to operate the servos.
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I don't recommend the use of a regulator for any type of 1/10 cars. If you do, you would be running to the equivlent to 5 cell. Europeans run 5 cell touringcar but they use 2.5 - 3.0 mod brushless.
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Old 08-05-2008, 04:29 PM   #3649
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Mike they are talking about voltage regulators only for the 2wd 4 cell pan car oval class. They are already crazy fast with 4 cells and 13.5s.

The concern is that trying to run unregulated stock 13.5 / 7.4v lipo powered pan cars would result in carnage and excessive tire wear.

Theres a part of me that would really like to see them try that!
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Old 08-05-2008, 05:04 PM   #3650
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Mike they are talking about voltage regulators only for the 2wd 4 cell pan car oval class. They are already crazy fast with 4 cells and 13.5s.

The concern is that trying to run unregulated stock 13.5 / 7.4v lipo powered pan cars would result in carnage and excessive tire wear.

Theres a part of me that would really like to see them try that!
Here's the situation....if half of us want to run LiPo and half run NiMh there would be a difference in voltage from 7.4(LiPo) to 6.4(NiMh) 1 volt doesn't sound like much but would result in faster laps and more speed.......and in pan-car oval thats a huge difference where the smallest things mean so much. I will remind everyone at this point..............this is purely a thought as of right now, and nothing will be set in stone until it has been tested and agreed on! Harding is definately interested and I'll come right out and say I agree with Ed, that there is a part of me also that would like to see it as well!




Enough of that for now, Stober will you be making the trip this weekend? Need some tires!
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Ok, I see your point.
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Ok, I see your point.
Mike, are you coming up on the 24th for the big electric race?
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I don't think I will make that race.
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Old 08-05-2008, 10:03 PM   #3654
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Tom - You can run my old TT-01 in 4wd mod.
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Thanks Ed! I should be there sunday.

I will run some TT-01 road course this year...not if it's oval again..
I have a tt-01 Sam. I am in the same boat though, i will only come if they do road course again.
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A voltage regulator would go between the battery and the speeder and limit the voltage from7.4 to 6.4 I assume! I am checking into and researching this heavily at this point. Reason for no motor change is to keep the cost down for some of our "core" racers who may just want to get a LiPo and not have to replace their 13.5's from last year with the higher wind stuff! Keep in mind also that the track WILL be changed as often as the road course and may include at some point a super speedway! I also need to find out how many people will switch to LiPo because if some are not the regulator would have to be in place to keep speeds and voltage equivelant to that of a Nickel pack. Another thing is to make sure that you can run LiPo vs. Nickel fairly without a disadvantage to either for our bigger races when out-of-towners would be coming to race!
Not 100% sure I am even running oval this year or not, but if I do I am down w/the lipo switch
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Hi, my name is Gregg and I would like to come out to Altoona and check out your track sometime. I used to race out there when it was run by the Meyers brothers and located behind some bar.

My son and I both have 1/8 scale buggies that are ready to go with new nitro engines that run on nitro fuel.

I am up for Electric oval racing in winter as it is too cold to run nitro buggies that run on nitro outside. My opinions on oval is to have a circular track and run counter clockwise.

Hope to meet everyone soon especially that Gixxerman guy and that ED237 guy. You guys sound like you are neato.

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Old 08-06-2008, 04:44 PM   #3657
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Golly gee that would be swell. But your cars have to pass visual inspection. We simply don't allow any circus freak 'clownish' pok-a-dot paint jobs at the track anymore.
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Old 08-06-2008, 07:53 PM   #3658
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Have you guys seen lipo 13.5 in a pan car ????? It's scary fast with 3400 tekin 2 cell packs. One thing I can say about lipo and BL ..............CATCH FENCE around the track about 3 to 4 foot tall. At Mushroom Bowl the last time I was there............ 4 cell nickel ran 38 laps and lipo ran 44 or 46 laps. Both batteries powering 13.5 Bl motors. In practice I was running on about a 36 to 38 lap pace (13.5) and got my doors loosened by a 17.5 running a 3400 lipo pack.

Just passing some info from other areas, and look forward to getting up to Altoona again this indoor season.
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Old 08-07-2008, 11:52 AM   #3659
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no oval????? that blows... im out



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I have also posted the above info on it's own thread in the Racer forum--here's the link ALTOONA RACEWAY 1/10 SCALE ELECTRIC TROPHY RACE!! Keep it bumped up so we get the word out!!!!

Can't wait for carpet to start up, lots of good ideas floating around right now including LiPo 13.5 pan-car, and it appears as though The Great One, Fast Eddie Toth will take back his coveted TT-O1 series which will be returning to road course action!!! Many track changes as well, including the oval this year should provide for some exciting and entertaining laps!!!


In the words of NeverAGoodLap...............MMMMMMMMMMMMMM CARPET
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Old 08-07-2008, 11:56 AM   #3660
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ed... gerald wanted me to ask if you and brad got your own track for this year or are you running altoona?
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