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10-06-2003, 06:53 PM
#1
B.M.I. Racing joins the electric circuit
Hey guys,i just want to let you guys know about the new electric chassis from B.M.I. Racing that is about to hit the market.it is carbon fiber chassis kit w/ upper brace for your tc3.kit comes with all necessary hardware for assembly.if you are familiar with B.M.I. Racing then you already know that we only put out quality products that work.i will be posting pics as soon as i finish the run.
the kit will be available in standard color carbon fiber and in blue.any other colors can be done on special order but the cost will be slightly higher.chassis kits will be $99.99 including chassis,top deck,standoffs ,motormount,ect.a race package is available FT TC3 with chassis kit for $389.99.we will have a rtr kit available by mid october.if you have seen our nitro tc3 chassis you will see that we only put out the finest most effective products.thanks for your time.
jay
the kit will be available in standard color carbon fiber and in blue.any other colors can be done on special order but the cost will be slightly higher.chassis kits will be $99.99 including chassis,top deck,standoffs ,motormount,ect.a race package is available FT TC3 with chassis kit for $389.99.we will have a rtr kit available by mid october.if you have seen our nitro tc3 chassis you will see that we only put out the finest most effective products.thanks for your time.
jay
10-06-2003, 08:48 PM
#2
another warpspeed wanna be. i have the d-1 and d-2 what does this car have thats different than the demons.
10-06-2003, 09:29 PM
#3
Tech Fanatic
tc3 chassis
What is going to be different about it. Are you putting the batteries on the other side? I am really starting to nitice the tourqe steer now that I have changed everything over to carbon.
10-06-2003, 09:38 PM
#4
some how even with a modified i have never felt the torque steer ii tend to trim the car so it wont on the tub car but on the demon car there is no torque steer!
10-07-2003, 03:20 AM
#5
i am not here to knock the demon cars,i am friends with victor and actually helped him develope it.it is not going to be like anyone elses chassis.please dont fire at me like im trying to do something evil.im just trying to finally put something out there that actually works.work with me and you will see the differences between my products and what erveryone else has
10-07-2003, 08:51 AM
#6
When
So when will you show us a proto-type?
I've been thru a Graphite chassis milled to the max- liked it
I'm in the process of testing my Demon-wait and see.
I'm hooked with the TC3, its like being married to it, hehehehe. Having another chassis is a welcome to TC3 fanatic like me. I must admit, I'm more of "for show" than "go", but who knows, I might get better along the way.
So don't you make us wait any longer, and christmas is just around the corner- and it maybe on the list of Us tc3 loyalists.
Peace, Goodluck and More power!
I've been thru a Graphite chassis milled to the max- liked it
I'm in the process of testing my Demon-wait and see.
I'm hooked with the TC3, its like being married to it, hehehehe. Having another chassis is a welcome to TC3 fanatic like me. I must admit, I'm more of "for show" than "go", but who knows, I might get better along the way.
So don't you make us wait any longer, and christmas is just around the corner- and it maybe on the list of Us tc3 loyalists.
Peace, Goodluck and More power!
10-07-2003, 12:33 PM
#7
i am not knocking you just want to see how yours can be different. i have a d-1 and waiting for my d-2 the car works really good how can you improve on victors other rhan cosmetically!
10-07-2003, 01:47 PM
#8
thanks for working with me guys,the prototype should be ready within the week,i got hit with the flu which slowed me up.i will get pics for everyone within about a week.also the d1 and d2 are great chassis,mine is just different.yes,its alot of cosmetics but at the same time i am defeating all of the problems with the car.unlike the warp chassis i went with the standard by keeping the batteries on the same side.BUT
i moved them to where they should be.i did alot of testing,i moved the batteries where i felt they needed to be,yes closer to the driveshaft but...i cant give away all the secrets yet,i can tell you that it is very light,very stiff and very pretty.im not looking to make a killing on it that is why the price is alot lower than everyone elses.i do all the engineering and machining myself.i own a 12,000 sq. ft. shop loaded with all the latest cnc milling ,turning,punching,welding,anything i need to do.i am an engineer and machinist of 15 years and have alot to offer you guys.i am looking foward to doing business with you guys and i will have some pics up here real soon,i will post a pic of the chassis without the brace some time today.thank you for posting on my thread.
jay
i moved them to where they should be.i did alot of testing,i moved the batteries where i felt they needed to be,yes closer to the driveshaft but...i cant give away all the secrets yet,i can tell you that it is very light,very stiff and very pretty.im not looking to make a killing on it that is why the price is alot lower than everyone elses.i do all the engineering and machining myself.i own a 12,000 sq. ft. shop loaded with all the latest cnc milling ,turning,punching,welding,anything i need to do.i am an engineer and machinist of 15 years and have alot to offer you guys.i am looking foward to doing business with you guys and i will have some pics up here real soon,i will post a pic of the chassis without the brace some time today.thank you for posting on my thread.jay
10-07-2003, 01:52 PM
#9
also ,tourqe steer is caused by chassis flex.also placement of the motor.shaft drive cars are notorious for tourqe steer.the way to stop it is a stiff chassis and good placement of the motor.i managed to eliminate tourqe steer in the nitro car,that was hard.this is a walk in the park.trust me guys.this thing will work
10-07-2003, 02:08 PM
#10
Well, I must say I am interested in seeing what you have to offer 
*patiently awaits for some pics to be posted*
*patiently awaits for some pics to be posted*
10-07-2003, 03:10 PM
#11
well guys,this is the only pic i have so far.it is from last weekend.the material used for the chassis was only for prototype.
it will be offered in blue and standard carbon fiber.the upper level brace has been completed but no pics yet.beside it is my nitro chassis milled from a solid 1 inch x5 inch x 13 1/4 inch block of aluminum.it is all 1 piece.it is stiffer ,lighter,and has a lower center of gravity than stock.due to rigid design,i eliminated the radio tray.did i mention lighter
it will be offered in blue and standard carbon fiber.the upper level brace has been completed but no pics yet.beside it is my nitro chassis milled from a solid 1 inch x5 inch x 13 1/4 inch block of aluminum.it is all 1 piece.it is stiffer ,lighter,and has a lower center of gravity than stock.due to rigid design,i eliminated the radio tray.did i mention lighter
Last edited by protc3; 10-07-2003 at 03:19 PM.
10-07-2003, 03:19 PM
#14
yup, more power to ya. i am not a tc3 driver...yet...but i am wondering when one of these conversion kits will include full aluminum bulkheads like the baracuda? i got to play with the yok sd car and i can see that a ton of flex is a result of the actual bulkheads, or gearcases, flexing. it's not an issue unless you use a top deck
no doubt that the tc3 is a vicious car in the right hands. from an engineering standpoint, what are the advantages to the classic double deck chassis over the tub? the top deck raises the cg, and will be subject to tweak issues over the tub. at least if the tub tweaks, you can adjust and forget it. the twin plates don't always tweak out the same direction or magnitude. I know that weight is not an issue with the tub as many racers are able to get to <50 oz w/o much work. and everyone and their brother has milled them out the get the batteries to the centerline. while i wish anyone who is creative enough to bring something new to the market much sucess, i am curious to what the reason will be for the success.
good luck the price is right.
no doubt that the tc3 is a vicious car in the right hands. from an engineering standpoint, what are the advantages to the classic double deck chassis over the tub? the top deck raises the cg, and will be subject to tweak issues over the tub. at least if the tub tweaks, you can adjust and forget it. the twin plates don't always tweak out the same direction or magnitude. I know that weight is not an issue with the tub as many racers are able to get to <50 oz w/o much work. and everyone and their brother has milled them out the get the batteries to the centerline. while i wish anyone who is creative enough to bring something new to the market much sucess, i am curious to what the reason will be for the success.
good luck the price is right.
, hopefully it'll be good.
10-07-2003, 03:28 PM
#16
stock tub chassis gets warped from heat of the batteries and motor,yes the tub is fine ,but carbon fiber will not be warped due to heat.this chassis is very adjustable.the more material you remove from the stock tub,the better the chance for warping.the upper brace has very little effect on cg.batteries,motor and electronics have most effect and the motor and batteries run flush with the bottom of the chassis.if the car is designed right you should be bracing the whole car,not just the bulkheads.my brace is one piece and mounts bulkheads to chassis.what i went after with this chassis is to get the best features from all the latest touring cars and put them in the tc3
10-07-2003, 03:33 PM
#17
yes it is very stiff.the motor on the reverse side throws weight to the outside of the car when accelerating or exiting corners.that is why yokomo changed sides when they went to shaft drive.again,i am not comparing this to a demon,this is a chassis that i would like to sell,i am not in warpspeeds thread saying anything bad about his chassis,why do you knock mine.when you see the car complete you will see there is nothing like it
10-07-2003, 04:30 PM
#20
Will there be holes to except the NTC3 steering?
10-07-2003, 04:46 PM
#21
Registered User
PROTC3:
Great work, that prototype is looking good already. Can't wait to see the final product. I don't know you do this to your chassis or not. Do you ever thinking about milling away some carbon fibre under gear boxes, motor mount, and servo to the main chassis. For significant lower centre of gravity?
BTW, do you have website, so we can check it out?
Great work, that prototype is looking good already. Can't wait to see the final product. I don't know you do this to your chassis or not. Do you ever thinking about milling away some carbon fibre under gear boxes, motor mount, and servo to the main chassis. For significant lower centre of gravity?
BTW, do you have website, so we can check it out?
10-07-2003, 05:12 PM
#23
protc3
i think it looks great ! theres always people out there that think some thing new will not will not work till they see it ., but youve tested it and with good outcome . i welcome the new addition and although i currently run losi . its real nice to see others out there who see improvement in things .. great job.. cant wait to see it run....take care..
at that price i could see giving it a try..
at that price i could see giving it a try..
10-07-2003, 06:13 PM
#24
I ran the NTC3 for a summer-did great with it, but that car had serious issues. I wrenched on that car after every heat, and if didnt-it was a different car every heat. If I ever ran a NTC3 again-I would definately try your chassis. It has very sound ideas.
Best of luck on your Tc3 conversion. I say-the more conversions and hop-ups-the better.
Almost everyone is bored with the standard Tc3 by now. In fact that car was ugly when it was released!!!
Best of luck on your Tc3 conversion. I say-the more conversions and hop-ups-the better.
Almost everyone is bored with the standard Tc3 by now. In fact that car was ugly when it was released!!!
10-07-2003, 06:27 PM
#25
Here's a thought: having 7 cell slots on the chassis is nice, but you'll find that everybody will run the cells forward, or at least they likely will. Instead of having the 7 slots, see about designing an adjustable battery tray that could be used to make slight adjustments forward/rear. Moving everything up by one cell is just too drastic of a change and will really upset the car's handling.
The new Schumacher MI2 has such a system and it looks good.
The new Schumacher MI2 has such a system and it looks good.
10-07-2003, 07:05 PM
#26
thanks for the support guys.and futureal,thats a good idea,i will look into that.
when i designed this kit i made the car underweight so you can add weight to be legal and put it where you want it.setting an adjustable battery plate sounds good,let me see if it will upset the rigidity of the kit.thanks for your input
when i designed this kit i made the car underweight so you can add weight to be legal and put it where you want it.setting an adjustable battery plate sounds good,let me see if it will upset the rigidity of the kit.thanks for your input
10-07-2003, 07:45 PM
#29
Registered User
Can the chassis still use original style front and rear braces? That upper deck really not look good.
10-07-2003, 08:00 PM
#30
yes you can use standard braces,just give it a chance,wait until you see it in full carbon fiber or in blue.it really looks good.it is a very functional brace,it withstands extreme twist and compression.if you guys have any ideas of better looking ones let me know.a thin one that only mounts to the trannys doesnt re enforce the chassis enough.the housings are too weak.majority of the flex on any of these chassis in the front and rear under the transmissions.it also mounts in the center of the chassis to eliminate flex over full length of the brace.