TOP Racing SG News
10-17-2009, 02:28 AM
#46
Tech Fanatic
tire insert and rims
Hi All Racer,
The idea of from foampervert is is correct you can make use different insert to gain traction and responds from the car.
But the Tire, Insert and Rims is close only the tire set from Solaris, which is on sale in Racecraft.
this is to ensure that all racer will have one common element to race with and racer need to work on their cars to gain grip.
Gryphon hope this will help you prepare for your race!
Kyle
The idea of from foampervert is is correct you can make use different insert to gain traction and responds from the car.
But the Tire, Insert and Rims is close only the tire set from Solaris, which is on sale in Racecraft.
this is to ensure that all racer will have one common element to race with and racer need to work on their cars to gain grip.
Gryphon hope this will help you prepare for your race!
Kyle
10-17-2009, 06:31 AM
#48
Hi All Racer,
The idea of from foampervert is is correct you can make use different insert to gain traction and responds from the car.
But the Tire, Insert and Rims is close only the tire set from Solaris, which is on sale in Racecraft.
this is to ensure that all racer will have one common element to race with and racer need to work on their cars to gain grip.
Gryphon hope this will help you prepare for your race!
Kyle
The idea of from foampervert is is correct you can make use different insert to gain traction and responds from the car.
But the Tire, Insert and Rims is close only the tire set from Solaris, which is on sale in Racecraft.
this is to ensure that all racer will have one common element to race with and racer need to work on their cars to gain grip.
Gryphon hope this will help you prepare for your race!
Kyle
10-17-2009, 10:23 PM
#52
Tech Apprentice
Hi Kyle,
Thanks for the clarification. We know that different inserts will give different grip. That is what we have been playing around in the good old days.
That is why we set our cars based on the controlled "set" of tyre. We are only confused when foampervert says that we can play around with inserts when what is being discussed here is for TOP Photon drivers to make our cars handle better for the ECG race based on the controlled tyre.
Cockyduck,
So far FXII seems to work very well with solaris rubbers. As for foam, cannot comment much as I have not been racing much on them.
Cheers
Gryphon
Thanks for the clarification. We know that different inserts will give different grip. That is what we have been playing around in the good old days.
That is why we set our cars based on the controlled "set" of tyre. We are only confused when foampervert says that we can play around with inserts when what is being discussed here is for TOP Photon drivers to make our cars handle better for the ECG race based on the controlled tyre.
Cockyduck,
So far FXII seems to work very well with solaris rubbers. As for foam, cannot comment much as I have not been racing much on them.
Cheers
Gryphon
10-18-2009, 02:41 AM
#53
huh?
Foampervert,
Can you confirm that the ECG series race is open inserts? We know that you are the co-organiser. Can you confirm this? Or do we need to stick to the hand out i.e. pre-glued wheels (solaris with the standard hard inserts and TOP rims).
Please confirm this, because your post suggest that only the tires are controlled but the inserts and rims are not???? Dose this means we can use other inserts and rims for the race?
BK,
Any comments on this? We need to clear this up as soon as possible so that we can experiment with various inserts and rims to prepare for the race.
Thanks
Gryphon
Can you confirm that the ECG series race is open inserts? We know that you are the co-organiser. Can you confirm this? Or do we need to stick to the hand out i.e. pre-glued wheels (solaris with the standard hard inserts and TOP rims).
Please confirm this, because your post suggest that only the tires are controlled but the inserts and rims are not???? Dose this means we can use other inserts and rims for the race?
BK,
Any comments on this? We need to clear this up as soon as possible so that we can experiment with various inserts and rims to prepare for the race.
Thanks
Gryphon
temp controlled tires tend to have the temp they work at in the tire product code, like sorex 32R for 32 degrees?
I could be wrong cos I haven't dabbled in on-road for a bit.
As for ECG, do follow the rules as prescribed by BK. This discussion is purely on tuning and such, and really isn't meant for peeps to exploit rule loopholes. We would encourage all ECG participants to be sporting and go with the general idea of the ECG series race rules, which is to provide opportunity for racing within fair and measurable parameters.
I would encourage all drivers to tune and drive as best they can without having to go into exploitation of the rules.
That said, I wish all TOP drivers the best of luck for the upcoming ECG!
Shalom and God Bless!
-Alexander
10-18-2009, 08:45 PM
#54
Tech Apprentice
I'm not just talking about ECG of cos, this being the TOP thread. I meant races in general. And if i'm not wrong, Solaris tires are not tuned to temp either... they are made of similar compounds as off-road tires, soft, med and hard.
temp controlled tires tend to have the temp they work at in the tire product code, like sorex 32R for 32 degrees?
I could be wrong cos I haven't dabbled in on-road for a bit.
As for ECG, do follow the rules as prescribed by BK. This discussion is purely on tuning and such, and really isn't meant for peeps to exploit rule loopholes. We would encourage all ECG participants to be sporting and go with the general idea of the ECG series race rules, which is to provide opportunity for racing within fair and measurable parameters.
I would encourage all drivers to tune and drive as best they can without having to go into exploitation of the rules.
That said, I wish all TOP drivers the best of luck for the upcoming ECG!
Shalom and God Bless!
-Alexander
temp controlled tires tend to have the temp they work at in the tire product code, like sorex 32R for 32 degrees?
I could be wrong cos I haven't dabbled in on-road for a bit.
As for ECG, do follow the rules as prescribed by BK. This discussion is purely on tuning and such, and really isn't meant for peeps to exploit rule loopholes. We would encourage all ECG participants to be sporting and go with the general idea of the ECG series race rules, which is to provide opportunity for racing within fair and measurable parameters.
I would encourage all drivers to tune and drive as best they can without having to go into exploitation of the rules.
That said, I wish all TOP drivers the best of luck for the upcoming ECG!
Shalom and God Bless!
-Alexander
Please get your facts right before you post. Races in general give hand out tires to control rims, inserts and rubbers. Try going to TITC and change the inserts for the RIDE hand outs. Please do not make sweeping statements and then cover your errors buy making another sweeping statement.
TOP Photon racers thank you for your contribution and encouragement in the forthcoming ECG series race. Come on, get a TOP Photon and join us for some good on road fun, kopi sessions and fellowship or get beck on road and join us for some good on road racing.
Although we did not win in the first outing. (Most of our drivers are quite new to racing but with a lot of passion as a group.)
In the MOD class we have a driver in A main.
In the very closely contested Stock class, we have 2 drivers in A main and 2 drivers in B main. Giving some sponsored drivers a very good run during the race.
All drivers are working hard to improve their standing for the coming races with constant exchange of notes on set up.
Cheers and Best Regards
Gryphon
10-19-2009, 02:13 AM
#55
Guys, something i found regarding springs. Keep it as reference.
Yokomo (Pro shock spring long type with color marking at the bottom)
Black - 258 gF/mm
Blue - 264 gF/mm
Yellow - 280 gF/mm
Pink - 290 gF/mm
Green - 303 gF/mm
Orange - 330 gF/mm
HPI Racing (Color marking at the bottom of the spring)
Blue - 273 gF/mm
Silver - 302 gF/mm
Pink - 320 gF/mm
Gold - 340 gF/mm
White - 363 gF/mm
Yellow - 388 gF/mm
Red - 400 gF/mm
Hara Spring V.1 (Color marking at the bottom of the spring)
Yellow - 230gF/mm
White - 250 gF/mm
Black 270 gF/mm
Purple - 290 gF/mm
Red - 310 gF/mm
Top Racing (Spring Rate engrave on the spring)
Gamma 393 gF/mm
Gamma 367 gF/mm
Gamma 344 gF/mm
Gamma 324 gF/mm
Gamma 306 gF/mm
Gamma 289 gF/mm
Alpha 626 gF/mm
Alpha 591 gF/mm
Alpha 560 gF/mm
Alpha 532 gF/mm
Alpha 507 gF/mm
Beta 347 gF/mm
Beta 325 gF/mm
Beta 306 gF/mm
Beta 294 gF/mm
Beta 274 gF/mm
*Gamma Spring is design for rubber asphalt racing
*Alpha & Beta spring is design for carpet and foam tire racing
Hope this help
Yokomo (Pro shock spring long type with color marking at the bottom)
Black - 258 gF/mm
Blue - 264 gF/mm
Yellow - 280 gF/mm
Pink - 290 gF/mm
Green - 303 gF/mm
Orange - 330 gF/mm
HPI Racing (Color marking at the bottom of the spring)
Blue - 273 gF/mm
Silver - 302 gF/mm
Pink - 320 gF/mm
Gold - 340 gF/mm
White - 363 gF/mm
Yellow - 388 gF/mm
Red - 400 gF/mm
Hara Spring V.1 (Color marking at the bottom of the spring)
Yellow - 230gF/mm
White - 250 gF/mm
Black 270 gF/mm
Purple - 290 gF/mm
Red - 310 gF/mm
Top Racing (Spring Rate engrave on the spring)
Gamma 393 gF/mm
Gamma 367 gF/mm
Gamma 344 gF/mm
Gamma 324 gF/mm
Gamma 306 gF/mm
Gamma 289 gF/mm
Alpha 626 gF/mm
Alpha 591 gF/mm
Alpha 560 gF/mm
Alpha 532 gF/mm
Alpha 507 gF/mm
Beta 347 gF/mm
Beta 325 gF/mm
Beta 306 gF/mm
Beta 294 gF/mm
Beta 274 gF/mm
*Gamma Spring is design for rubber asphalt racing
*Alpha & Beta spring is design for carpet and foam tire racing
Hope this help
10-19-2009, 05:39 AM
#57
Tech Apprentice
Guys, something i found regarding springs. Keep it as reference.
Yokomo (Pro shock spring long type with color marking at the bottom)
Black - 258 gF/mm
Blue - 264 gF/mm
Yellow - 280 gF/mm
Pink - 290 gF/mm
Green - 303 gF/mm
Orange - 330 gF/mm
HPI Racing (Color marking at the bottom of the spring)
Blue - 273 gF/mm
Silver - 302 gF/mm
Pink - 320 gF/mm
Gold - 340 gF/mm
White - 363 gF/mm
Yellow - 388 gF/mm
Red - 400 gF/mm
Hara Spring V.1 (Color marking at the bottom of the spring)
Yellow - 230gF/mm
White - 250 gF/mm
Black 270 gF/mm
Purple - 290 gF/mm
Red - 310 gF/mm
Top Racing (Spring Rate engrave on the spring)
Gamma 393 gF/mm
Gamma 367 gF/mm
Gamma 344 gF/mm
Gamma 324 gF/mm
Gamma 306 gF/mm
Gamma 289 gF/mm
Alpha 626 gF/mm
Alpha 591 gF/mm
Alpha 560 gF/mm
Alpha 532 gF/mm
Alpha 507 gF/mm
Beta 347 gF/mm
Beta 325 gF/mm
Beta 306 gF/mm
Beta 294 gF/mm
Beta 274 gF/mm
*Gamma Spring is design for rubber asphalt racing
*Alpha & Beta spring is design for carpet and foam tire racing
Hope this help
Yokomo (Pro shock spring long type with color marking at the bottom)
Black - 258 gF/mm
Blue - 264 gF/mm
Yellow - 280 gF/mm
Pink - 290 gF/mm
Green - 303 gF/mm
Orange - 330 gF/mm
HPI Racing (Color marking at the bottom of the spring)
Blue - 273 gF/mm
Silver - 302 gF/mm
Pink - 320 gF/mm
Gold - 340 gF/mm
White - 363 gF/mm
Yellow - 388 gF/mm
Red - 400 gF/mm
Hara Spring V.1 (Color marking at the bottom of the spring)
Yellow - 230gF/mm
White - 250 gF/mm
Black 270 gF/mm
Purple - 290 gF/mm
Red - 310 gF/mm
Top Racing (Spring Rate engrave on the spring)
Gamma 393 gF/mm
Gamma 367 gF/mm
Gamma 344 gF/mm
Gamma 324 gF/mm
Gamma 306 gF/mm
Gamma 289 gF/mm
Alpha 626 gF/mm
Alpha 591 gF/mm
Alpha 560 gF/mm
Alpha 532 gF/mm
Alpha 507 gF/mm
Beta 347 gF/mm
Beta 325 gF/mm
Beta 306 gF/mm
Beta 294 gF/mm
Beta 274 gF/mm
*Gamma Spring is design for rubber asphalt racing
*Alpha & Beta spring is design for carpet and foam tire racing
Hope this help
Thanks.
CockyDuck,
Do you have the spring ratings for the Tamiya White, Blue, Yellow and Red??
Cheers
Gryphon
