Metalsoft

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That's on the manufactures, and is their fault. If they can't come up with a practical solution then they should not be on the roar approved list.

It's all in the name of taking your money.

Carnage9270

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Sales keep the rc industry alive. Companies stay in business because of motor wars. Start limiting things too much and you kill the hobby completely.

Roelof

This is what I hear a lot, but is it?

Remember when brushless was introduced? In the 2 years afterward we had almost the ESC of the month to get. In this war of getting the latest stuff people were tired to buy anything to keep up. I know for a lot of people the interest of a national competition was low. Then came the need of zero timing which is still widely used today.

My opinion for a stock class is that it needs to be equal and fair and sadly (for you) that comes with a bunch of rules. Rules that does not hurt the experience of real racing.

Carnage9270

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Unfortunately, yes, it is true. Sales have to continue at a very consistent rate. There's only a handful of companies out there that can sustain a profitable business without releasing something "innovative" (yes I use that term loosely) every six months. These companies we buy from are far from rich.

DJEckart

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Keeping the number of classes down also keeps cost down. We need to stop requesting a ridiculous number of different motors from manufacturers. If the difference on track is 1/2 second with a change of 4 turns, as described in one of the first post in thread, then a 25.5 AND 21.5 class is unnecessary. I defy anybody to tell which is which without a stopwatch unless they are on track together.
I say there should be a 25.5 class and then maybe a 17.5 before going to unlimited. After all, racing is about driver skill, not mechanical superiority

mbykerman

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What happened with the ESC war anyway? Was it the fact that it went to blinky and the war ended or did the manufactures level the playing field amongst themselves? I don't hear much about the latest and greatest ESCs anymore.

Roelof

The firmware is now upgradable.

DamianW

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The ESC war lasted for about 6 months, after which the difference between ESCs was near zero.

howardcano

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At some point, the line has to be drawn in the sand. The sooner the better. If it needs to be 57-ish milliohms terminal resistance at 25C to match the new motors, then let's do it and end this nonsense.

At the same time, prohibit:
skewed stators;
non-symmetrical pole laminations;
built-in dynamic timing;
and whatever else we can think of that isn't yet done, but could be.

Joe Maxey

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+1000

jlfx car audio

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×π

Carnage9270

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Another thing to consider, offroad is a bigger part of the motor market by huge margins. What onroad wants isn't necessarily what offroad wants. So who wins this argument?

theproffesor

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Off-road runs almost exclusively Mod. I would say less than 10% runs 17.5. And no one runs a 21.5 or 25.5 off road. So for the "spec" motor classes onroad is where the money is at.

nexxus

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I don;'t know a Tekin RS / RS Pro is still a slug in a spec class blinky mode IMO, not sure why but just feels like 80% throttle compared to everything else.

tbrymer

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I'm running a stock spec tekin gen 2 in one of my 17.5 TC cars and it doesn't seem to be lacking speed at all.