Castle XLX vs. XL2
04-23-2016, 08:55 PM
#31
Tech Addict
Thank you Mr.phildogg, not happy about situation, first build for speed run and now this. Think I will break down and buy xl2, come to far to turn back now. Are there any other big ESC that anyone has had luck with? Seen many options, 300/400 amp, most are for heli or boat. Alien? Vxp? Any suggestions or opinions would be great.
04-24-2016, 12:37 AM
#32
The Hobbywing Max 5 200a ESC is also A POS. If you try running more than 1000kv on 8s or 1600kv on 6s the throttle will cut out after 1 or 2 seconds of WOT. Hobbywing told me this is a safty mode it goes into. Did manage 113 mph one time with it on the same setup exact setup I went 134 mph with a XL2. Dont waste your money on Hobbywing either. Only good 1/5 option for speed is XL2 but they are all gone now.
SkyRC Toro Beast seems to struggle with some issues as well: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...2573823&page=2
04-24-2016, 10:49 PM
#33
Tech Adept
It is hard to believe that the XL2 is the only option. What are people like Nic Case and Tim Smith using in their cars?
04-25-2016, 03:55 AM
#34
Tech Addict
04-26-2016, 03:41 PM
#35
Tech Rookie
Happy with everyone's input on the situation. There is another thread on here same topic that seems a little more heated. Castle this,hobbywing that, guys need to get over yourself and your ego's. Nobody cares about that much, think most of us would just like a good ESC that does what it says. I have come to the conclusion that either purchase a xl2 or wait for update. I impatient so xl2 for me, I will hold on to my xlx, find something to do with it. Let the buyer beware!
05-01-2016, 07:39 PM
#36
Tech Adept
Do you have any links to information on guys running those in cars?
Last week I thought I had time to order a Castle XL2 but someone bought the last eight that were in stock where I was looking - in one day! Hopefully Castle unlocks the XLX.
Last week I thought I had time to order a Castle XL2 but someone bought the last eight that were in stock where I was looking - in one day! Hopefully Castle unlocks the XLX.
05-02-2016, 02:49 AM
#37
Tech Addict
05-02-2016, 11:46 AM
#38
There's still some XL2s out there, I just ordered one today so I have a backup in case anything happens to the one I'm running
05-02-2016, 01:02 PM
#39
Tech Adept
could we change the programing on these new ones?
I just about bought 2 of the XLX thinking they were better.....
I just about bought 2 of the XLX thinking they were better.....
05-02-2016, 04:48 PM
#40
Tech Rookie
Does the mamba monster x have these same issues?
05-02-2016, 06:45 PM
#41
Tech Addict
You can change the programming just like the xl2. Sorry to hear that Castle tricked you too into thinking the XLX is a upgrade over XL2. What a fraud! They still won't even announce anything hoping to trick as many people as they can still.
05-02-2016, 06:45 PM
#42
Tech Addict
05-02-2016, 07:41 PM
#43
Tech Adept
but even if we change the programing around, it sounds like the newer version still does not allow our motors to run full tilt ?
05-03-2016, 05:06 AM
#44
There's still one more test I wanna try with the XLX, as I stated before the current limiting can be disabled on it! The test I ran was with the limiting set to the max of 260A, so I'll throw it back on and disable the limiting to see if it makes a difference
05-03-2016, 06:03 AM
#45
Last week a Castle Link update was released, with "Added initial production firmware for the Mamba XL X": http://www.castlecreations.com/downl...stle_link.html. However, it seems there isn't any change in the firmware, as it is still v1.72 released 11/10/2015, see below... so not sure why that was listed in the Link update.
After updating the Link software to v3.63.00, I ran my XLX ESC a bit in a 10 kg 4WD Maverick Vader buggy, geared for 63 mph on-road on 2x5Ah 6s 65C Turnigy Graphenes with a 1195 kv TP Power TP5670 6-pole motor. Test-drive ended early because of motor issue, so I don't have a whole lot of input yet.
Torque control and punch control were disabled, start power set to low and Current limiting set to insensitive (220A). It did reach a little over 200A draw, but somehow it feels as if the power kicks in a bit delayed, like turbo lag. Best graph of throttle response I got is shown below, but I was modulating throttle too much to draw any conclusions on this I think.
Will change gearing now for 66 mph off-road on stock tires, 8S and with an 1165 kv Leopard 5698, while the TP's shaft is curing. Should be nice weather coming days, so might be able to run it before the weekend.
After updating the Link software to v3.63.00, I ran my XLX ESC a bit in a 10 kg 4WD Maverick Vader buggy, geared for 63 mph on-road on 2x5Ah 6s 65C Turnigy Graphenes with a 1195 kv TP Power TP5670 6-pole motor. Test-drive ended early because of motor issue, so I don't have a whole lot of input yet.
Torque control and punch control were disabled, start power set to low and Current limiting set to insensitive (220A). It did reach a little over 200A draw, but somehow it feels as if the power kicks in a bit delayed, like turbo lag. Best graph of throttle response I got is shown below, but I was modulating throttle too much to draw any conclusions on this I think.
Will change gearing now for 66 mph off-road on stock tires, 8S and with an 1165 kv Leopard 5698, while the TP's shaft is curing. Should be nice weather coming days, so might be able to run it before the weekend.
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