Team Magic G4
#3766
Great result guys !!!
I ahve nats in 2 weeks ,so this is my first event of teh new year as first club was missed due to me taking part in teh 1st round of teh off raod nats.
Really looking forward to it and am hyped up about it .
Car is stripped and getting rebuilt to make sure everything is OK.
looking to get a mugen rear roll bar or possibly use a Serpent 2.2mm or 2.4mm.
Opinions for the roll bar stiffness is welcome.
Do I start with the stiffer or or softer one ?
I ahve nats in 2 weeks ,so this is my first event of teh new year as first club was missed due to me taking part in teh 1st round of teh off raod nats.
Really looking forward to it and am hyped up about it .
Car is stripped and getting rebuilt to make sure everything is OK.
looking to get a mugen rear roll bar or possibly use a Serpent 2.2mm or 2.4mm.
Opinions for the roll bar stiffness is welcome.
Do I start with the stiffer or or softer one ?
#3768
push understeer (on-throttle understeer)
hi G4S users!
i had hardships in today running.
corner-in response is some slow.
and on-throttle understeer is happen.
i frequently changed Shock setting. But i could not solve it.
my diff setting is front 50000wt and rear 40000wt.
i want to know that the very easy setting to solve on-throttle understeer.
i had hardships in today running.
corner-in response is some slow.
and on-throttle understeer is happen.
i frequently changed Shock setting. But i could not solve it.
my diff setting is front 50000wt and rear 40000wt.
i want to know that the very easy setting to solve on-throttle understeer.
#3769
Tech Master
Originally Posted by razzor
Great result guys !!!
I ahve nats in 2 weeks ,so this is my first event of teh new year as first club was missed due to me taking part in teh 1st round of teh off raod nats.
Really looking forward to it and am hyped up about it .
Car is stripped and getting rebuilt to make sure everything is OK.
looking to get a mugen rear roll bar or possibly use a Serpent 2.2mm or 2.4mm.
Opinions for the roll bar stiffness is welcome.
Do I start with the stiffer or or softer one ?
I ahve nats in 2 weeks ,so this is my first event of teh new year as first club was missed due to me taking part in teh 1st round of teh off raod nats.
Really looking forward to it and am hyped up about it .
Car is stripped and getting rebuilt to make sure everything is OK.
looking to get a mugen rear roll bar or possibly use a Serpent 2.2mm or 2.4mm.
Opinions for the roll bar stiffness is welcome.
Do I start with the stiffer or or softer one ?
btw does anyone know if we can put RRR rear arm and hub in g4s?
if it fit i guess we can eliminate the use of drill in rear arm
however we need to stock different parts for rear arm and hub
#3770
Originally Posted by gansei
hi G4S users!
i had hardships in today running.
corner-in response is some slow.
and on-throttle understeer is happen.
i frequently changed Shock setting. But i could not solve it.
my diff setting is front 50000wt and rear 40000wt.
i want to know that the very easy setting to solve on-throttle understeer.
i had hardships in today running.
corner-in response is some slow.
and on-throttle understeer is happen.
i frequently changed Shock setting. But i could not solve it.
my diff setting is front 50000wt and rear 40000wt.
i want to know that the very easy setting to solve on-throttle understeer.
#3771
The 40k rear might be a contributing factor.
We found the sweet spot to be 50k front and 30k rear ,thanks to advice from Muppet.
Have you tried moving the caster forward ?
We found the sweet spot to be 50k front and 30k rear ,thanks to advice from Muppet.
Have you tried moving the caster forward ?
#3772
The Basics or not?
I took the plunge to Buy a G4S! To say the least I am very pleased with the quality!
Having driven a Serpent 200mm previously there is one technical detail that has been "bugging" me since day one!
I am running all my cars with 2 hole pistons in the front and three holes on the rear schocks with 40 / 35 oils (Serpent or GS)
I notice that most of the people drill the G4S schocks pistons to 1.2 / 1.3 mm and use 60 oil. If they use Associated that is understandable, becasue it is thinner than other oils, but to use the same piston configuration front and rear and still the same oil on top of that is what i might call odd!
Can anybody please shed some light on this for me please?
Having driven a Serpent 200mm previously there is one technical detail that has been "bugging" me since day one!
I am running all my cars with 2 hole pistons in the front and three holes on the rear schocks with 40 / 35 oils (Serpent or GS)
I notice that most of the people drill the G4S schocks pistons to 1.2 / 1.3 mm and use 60 oil. If they use Associated that is understandable, becasue it is thinner than other oils, but to use the same piston configuration front and rear and still the same oil on top of that is what i might call odd!
Can anybody please shed some light on this for me please?
#3773
Suspended
I have a G4s for sale, pm me if interested.
#3774
Originally Posted by uniquexme
can i check with u guys, for the steering block, there are these 2 big nuts that we need to tighten, may i know until how much degree should we tighten it to? until it doesn't move? or we still have to have some play on it? thanks.
#3775
Originally Posted by casimirsa
I took the plunge to Buy a G4S! To say the least I am very pleased with the quality!
Having driven a Serpent 200mm previously there is one technical detail that has been "bugging" me since day one!
I am running all my cars with 2 hole pistons in the front and three holes on the rear schocks with 40 / 35 oils (Serpent or GS)
I notice that most of the people drill the G4S schocks pistons to 1.2 / 1.3 mm and use 60 oil. If they use Associated that is understandable, becasue it is thinner than other oils, but to use the same piston configuration front and rear and still the same oil on top of that is what i might call odd!
Can anybody please shed some light on this for me please?
Having driven a Serpent 200mm previously there is one technical detail that has been "bugging" me since day one!
I am running all my cars with 2 hole pistons in the front and three holes on the rear schocks with 40 / 35 oils (Serpent or GS)
I notice that most of the people drill the G4S schocks pistons to 1.2 / 1.3 mm and use 60 oil. If they use Associated that is understandable, becasue it is thinner than other oils, but to use the same piston configuration front and rear and still the same oil on top of that is what i might call odd!
Can anybody please shed some light on this for me please?
#3776
Tech Master
iTrader: (15)
Using the car with the 2 hole pistons that have been drilled, seems to give the car excellent rear grip and with that it means you can give more grip to the front which will increase corner speed.
For a while last year I ran with the front pistons drilled with just one of the holes larger. Once I got better at setting up the rear of the car, I found I had enough grip to drill the second hole on the front pistons.
Cheers,
Mike.
For a while last year I ran with the front pistons drilled with just one of the holes larger. Once I got better at setting up the rear of the car, I found I had enough grip to drill the second hole on the front pistons.
Cheers,
Mike.
#3777
Originally Posted by gansei
hi G4S users!
i had hardships in today running.
corner-in response is some slow.
and on-throttle understeer is happen.
i frequently changed Shock setting. But i could not solve it.
my diff setting is front 50000wt and rear 40000wt.
i want to know that the very easy setting to solve on-throttle understeer.
i had hardships in today running.
corner-in response is some slow.
and on-throttle understeer is happen.
i frequently changed Shock setting. But i could not solve it.
my diff setting is front 50000wt and rear 40000wt.
i want to know that the very easy setting to solve on-throttle understeer.
Gensei, I think your diff oils are off. Too thick in rear. I had my S720 with 30K in the rear and 100K in the front. Handleing was very good for turns. I think you should go to 30K rear for starters and maybe even 20k, then maybe go to 60K up front. But one thing at a time of coarse to note the changes. So try 30 K in rear for starters.
For more initial turn in, give your front tires some toe out. Around 1/2-1 degree toe OUT on EACH side. Start with 1/2 first. This will give you better initial turn in.
If you already have toe out, then try to give the rear toe less of the toe in. If you are at 3 degrees toe in on the rear, go to 2.5 degrees toe in. Or if you are at 2.5 now, go to 2.0 degrees etc. This will give you better turn in and better straight away speed. However you might loose a little bit of rear traction through corners if you go too much and a little less stable on the straights as well if you go too much. So like you already know, one small step at a time.
Also, are you running a 2mm split on your tires for proper overdrive? This can make quite a difference too. Something to double check.
You could also change your caster by putting more shims behind the front upper A arms. Again...a little at a time. This should help with initial turn in, but you might loose on power steering if you go too much. It's about finding that balance of all the adjustments working together.
I would start with the diffs first. then toe out on the front or less toe in on the rear. and then caster changes last. It's hard to tell you exactly without knowing all the set up info you currently have on you car. Including tire shore, tire overdrive (diameter) and track conditions.
Good luck, and hope this helps more then hinders you. Ask away if you need to my friend. Later bro!
#3778
Originally Posted by Z00M
Using the car with the 2 hole pistons that have been drilled, seems to give the car excellent rear grip and with that it means you can give more grip to the front which will increase corner speed.
For a while last year I ran with the front pistons drilled with just one of the holes larger. Once I got better at setting up the rear of the car, I found I had enough grip to drill the second hole on the front pistons.
Cheers,
Mike.
For a while last year I ran with the front pistons drilled with just one of the holes larger. Once I got better at setting up the rear of the car, I found I had enough grip to drill the second hole on the front pistons.
Cheers,
Mike.
#3779
Originally Posted by razzor
Great result guys !!!
I ahve nats in 2 weeks ,so this is my first event of teh new year as first club was missed due to me taking part in teh 1st round of teh off raod nats.
Really looking forward to it and am hyped up about it .
Car is stripped and getting rebuilt to make sure everything is OK.
looking to get a mugen rear roll bar or possibly use a Serpent 2.2mm or 2.4mm.
Opinions for the roll bar stiffness is welcome.
Do I start with the stiffer or or softer one ?
I ahve nats in 2 weeks ,so this is my first event of teh new year as first club was missed due to me taking part in teh 1st round of teh off raod nats.
Really looking forward to it and am hyped up about it .
Car is stripped and getting rebuilt to make sure everything is OK.
looking to get a mugen rear roll bar or possibly use a Serpent 2.2mm or 2.4mm.
Opinions for the roll bar stiffness is welcome.
Do I start with the stiffer or or softer one ?
The only time I really needed to go to a softer setting was when the grip was high on sharper corners and would traction roll. This is when I would go to a softer setting on the rear sway bar to let the car have a little bit of roll or give so to speak to avoid traction rolling.
So I would recommend the stiffer sway bar, or go to a middle of the road sway bar if they make it. For example: If there are three choices, 2.1...2.2...and 2.3, I would start with the 2.2 and go from their. All of my cars have a "blade" style rear sway bar, so don't really know the options you have. In fact, I plan on trying some other manufactures blade sway bar on the G4S to see if it works. The G4S kit sway bar feels like a very soft metal to be used as a rear sway bar. Way softer then both Serpent and Mugen. But not sure if this will even give the results as the full sway bar mod you are talking about. I hope this helps you out somewhat razzor.
By the way, what are you running as far as off road? You mentioned the off road Nats, so I was curious what you ran? Anyway, good luck my friend!
#3780
Tech Fanatic
iTrader: (12)
Originally Posted by Serpentd
?? ?? Dude, are you runing the G4S??? Or an older version. I don't understand what you mean by the "two big nuts"?