Serpent 705
#1756
Can someone explain to me what 'roll centre' is, please?
Also, why are people putting shims under the bearing blocks? It sounds like some are putting shims under the front bb's, and some are putting shims under both the front and back bb's.
And it seems like many people are switching back to the Impulse location for mounting the shocks (i.e. on the bearing blocks instead of the shock towers). Why?
Also, why are people putting shims under the bearing blocks? It sounds like some are putting shims under the front bb's, and some are putting shims under both the front and back bb's.
And it seems like many people are switching back to the Impulse location for mounting the shocks (i.e. on the bearing blocks instead of the shock towers). Why?
#1757
Tech Master
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Putting the shocks on the bulkheads gives a more lay down shock mount. It gives it a more aggressive shock into high corning. Also it seems that mounting the shocks on the bulkhead a less chance of breakage of the shock!
Roll center is the car’s center of gravity….the body roll of the car. The 705 had very little body roll due to the ridges ness of the chassis IMHO.
MY 2 CENTS
Roll center is the car’s center of gravity….the body roll of the car. The 705 had very little body roll due to the ridges ness of the chassis IMHO.
MY 2 CENTS
#1758
ok... im going to order the integy tools that i need as soon as i know which sets to get... on speedtech r/c, could someone tell me which sets i need?? not just the sizes cuz some are like 1.5mm and then some are like 5/16"... so could you guys tell me exactly what wrenches and stuff i need to build the kit off of there??
#1760
but i dont get it cuz on the allen wrenches theres also liek 5/16" and stuff... should i get this :
Ti-Nitride Hex Wrench Set (6pcs)
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Ti-Nitride Hex Wrench Set (6pcs)
Wrench Set Ti-Nitride Hex (6pcs). These wrenches are color coded, 6 sizes are 0.05" 1/16" 3/32" 5/64" 2.5mm and 1.5mm. Sturdy and convenient to use, our tips have a high degree of tolerance to securely lock your screw in its place. No more slipping or stripping the screw head.
Inventory: In Stock
$25.99
#1761
i mean like should i get the first one on that page?? and what socket wrenches do i get?? can you say like the first thing, like 3rd or 4th or w/e... like that??
#1762
please could someone help out??
#1764
well thats just me... i want to make sure im doing every thing right... like on my math exam i asked so many questions they stoped answering...lol ... but when it comes to building the kit.. i think i should be fine... (now watch when i start ill have like a million questions...lol) thnx for the help
#1765
Originally posted by markp27
By following which bags to use, you'll always end up with the right components.
By following which bags to use, you'll always end up with the right components.
#1766
Originally posted by PUNISHER
Putting the shocks on the bulkheads gives a more lay down shock mount. It gives it a more aggressive shock into high corning. Also it seems that mounting the shocks on the bulkhead a less chance of breakage of the shock!
Roll center is the car’s center of gravity….the body roll of the car. The 705 had very little body roll due to the ridges ness of the chassis IMHO.
MY 2 CENTS
Putting the shocks on the bulkheads gives a more lay down shock mount. It gives it a more aggressive shock into high corning. Also it seems that mounting the shocks on the bulkhead a less chance of breakage of the shock!
Roll center is the car’s center of gravity….the body roll of the car. The 705 had very little body roll due to the ridges ness of the chassis IMHO.
MY 2 CENTS
Regarding roll center, it's actually not the same as CG. The center where the car rolls does not equal the center of mass for the car. The higher the roll center, the more difficult it is to roll the car which means the flatter the car will be.
#1767
Originally posted by chachi
Also, why are people putting shims under the bearing blocks? It sounds like some are putting shims under the front bb's, and some are putting shims under both the front and back bb's.
Also, why are people putting shims under the bearing blocks? It sounds like some are putting shims under the front bb's, and some are putting shims under both the front and back bb's.
The higher the roll center, the more stable that particular part of the car will be. A higher roll center of a particular part of a car will resist that particular part from rolling. For high speed tracks, this is what you may want. For low speed and technical tracks, you may want the roll center to be slightly lower thus allowing for more body roll to that part of the car. More body roll means more traction.
It has been mentioned on mytsn that the 7 mm spacer in the rear may be too much for some. So ideally some may want to try 4 mm, 5 mm and 6 mm. This will create more traction in the rear.
Concerning the shocks, the more laid down, the easier it is for the car to roll.
#1768
Originally posted by n1technik
hey snakers. i don't know if you guys remember me but i have posted couple messages back in hpiforum days. and it's good to see/read familiar names.
i had impulse ss couple years back and moved onto impact class. and where i live, impact class are slowly fading away.
so i've finally decided to join tc class again. now, i'm sure many of you have been there and i have same dilemma. MTX-3 or 705.
(parts are no issue here. i know where to get'em, although they do cost more than mugen i know how strong serpents are.)
now the question is to those of you who have driven both cars.
1. i know how strong serpents are. what about mtx3?
2. which car have more steering? more responsive?
hey snakers. i don't know if you guys remember me but i have posted couple messages back in hpiforum days. and it's good to see/read familiar names.
i had impulse ss couple years back and moved onto impact class. and where i live, impact class are slowly fading away.
so i've finally decided to join tc class again. now, i'm sure many of you have been there and i have same dilemma. MTX-3 or 705.
(parts are no issue here. i know where to get'em, although they do cost more than mugen i know how strong serpents are.)
now the question is to those of you who have driven both cars.
1. i know how strong serpents are. what about mtx3?
2. which car have more steering? more responsive?
Well, this is a much debated issue. If you ask this question on the other forum, you'll be inundated with biased remarks from them
Read a few messages back... Both cars are equal out of the box but with the 705, you don't need to do any hop up to make the car strong. Everything is already there.
Performance wise, both cars can be made to do as you like. But for lower weight and lower CG, it has to be the MTX-3.
#1770
OK...just got my 705 in today!! and the kit looks really good!!! get rid of the NTC3 to the 705 ... I think it's a wise idea. Any how..is there any trick and tip to built this baby??
also...I run on a small track...say...110' x 65' track. I need to get my gear and drive trai ratio lower...what can I do??
Anoter question...it seem like there is no room for the on/off switch...where do u guys put it??
also...I run on a small track...say...110' x 65' track. I need to get my gear and drive trai ratio lower...what can I do??
Anoter question...it seem like there is no room for the on/off switch...where do u guys put it??