Swearing at the track
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I think when in public with the possibility of younger folks being around you should be a responsible adult and keep your swearing to a minimum or at least keep your voice down....that's basic manners. Go to a bar or any other number of places that don't have kids around to let it fly. Contrary to some peoples opinion, an RC track/racing IS a family friendly activity.
no not just on the drivers stand but basically everywhere. And it is not emotional either. Just using the f' bomb every fourth or fifth word seemed over the top to me.
I get it is peoples right to say what they want. But would you swear like that at a funeral or a wedding or if your working in a day care. Maybe some people would?
Is there the same swearing at Little leagues or kids sports?
I get it is peoples right to say what they want. But would you swear like that at a funeral or a wedding or if your working in a day care. Maybe some people would?
Is there the same swearing at Little leagues or kids sports?
All depends on the situation. Of which I can only recall having dealt with you directly once in the past that would give you that opinion.
Personally, I think that's extremely funny. Would I personally dress myself and my son in those costumes for Halloween, no. Would I give the dad a high five if I saw them on the street, Heck Ya!
Its not just Rc Racing. Driving your real car , at a game, racing your car or Bike , or even at your kids little league game. Its everywhere. And the problem as "i witnessed it as a kid " , it starts out as swearing or just talking B.S , until you piss someone off & then it goes to the next level.. And then the Police get involved! And then your local Track or other gets shut down. As the old expression goes " Theres always a few that ruin it for the majority". My 2 cents
Let's not get crazy.
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Yes, I closed this thread earlier. I didn't want anyone to "go to far" before I could comment, as well as let things cool down a little.
Let's try and keep things civil between members.
Let's try and keep things civil between members.
#63
#64
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Swearing I can deal with, even if my kids are there. They understand we don't say those words. It's the heavy weed smell that has kept us away.
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i wont lie, im one of those guys that stinks like pot(you will smell it but never see it) i dont smoke in front of my kid and i sure as hell wont around anyone elses. before my main i may just sneak away and calm my nerves down.
i have issues speaking in general so im not one of those guys that spouts nonsense either.
if anyone asks me not to, i wont. Gord tessman can testify to that.
people have to remember allot of guys in rc racing are from other motorsport or sports and there bodys are too banged up to continue we usually choose pot to cope other than taking prescribed pills.
after ranting on my soap box, if someones openly smoking weed in front of kids or acting like hes straight out of cheech and chong he should be asked to leave no questions asked, if it happens again one year ban.
i have issues speaking in general so im not one of those guys that spouts nonsense either.
if anyone asks me not to, i wont. Gord tessman can testify to that.
people have to remember allot of guys in rc racing are from other motorsport or sports and there bodys are too banged up to continue we usually choose pot to cope other than taking prescribed pills.
after ranting on my soap box, if someones openly smoking weed in front of kids or acting like hes straight out of cheech and chong he should be asked to leave no questions asked, if it happens again one year ban.
#68
This happens way to much at some of my local tracks. It drives me a little crazy but what can you say?
I know in the real world guys swear. I get that. I just hate seeing it at the track. There is lots of kids there and people still let it rip.
My daughter used to come with me but now she won't as all the swearing just makes her so uncomfortable and scares her off. She was doing well with racing but it put her right off.
I've asked race announcers to mention it before and when they do most guys just laugh it off. I thought this was meant to be a family hobby/sport.
When I've asked people to 'tone it down' they seem to take offense. What do you think it the most polite way of asking them?
I really think it drives quite a few people away from our tracks. Th track owners do agree it should not go on but they don't enforce it much.
Maybe a no swearing sign at the track?
I did think about buying one and giving to the track owners to put up?
I really don't want to seem like a prude so hate to mention it time after time.
How does your track deal with it?
I know in the real world guys swear. I get that. I just hate seeing it at the track. There is lots of kids there and people still let it rip.
My daughter used to come with me but now she won't as all the swearing just makes her so uncomfortable and scares her off. She was doing well with racing but it put her right off.
I've asked race announcers to mention it before and when they do most guys just laugh it off. I thought this was meant to be a family hobby/sport.
When I've asked people to 'tone it down' they seem to take offense. What do you think it the most polite way of asking them?
I really think it drives quite a few people away from our tracks. Th track owners do agree it should not go on but they don't enforce it much.
Maybe a no swearing sign at the track?
I did think about buying one and giving to the track owners to put up?
I really don't want to seem like a prude so hate to mention it time after time.
How does your track deal with it?
#69
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Yes. I'm too fat and slow to catch them if they do.
Also, I lean pretty heavy libertarian and think most drugs should not be regulated. I could care less what you do to/with your body as long as you don't violate my property/body. And the smoke doesn't bother me, but it keeps me from bringing my kids.
We haven't been back to that track as a family since my daughter asked what the smell was. Now we are looking to start racing outdoors. I figure even if people smoke there the smell won't linger too long in the air. Probably won't notice it unless standing next to you on the driver stand.
Also, I lean pretty heavy libertarian and think most drugs should not be regulated. I could care less what you do to/with your body as long as you don't violate my property/body. And the smoke doesn't bother me, but it keeps me from bringing my kids.
We haven't been back to that track as a family since my daughter asked what the smell was. Now we are looking to start racing outdoors. I figure even if people smoke there the smell won't linger too long in the air. Probably won't notice it unless standing next to you on the driver stand.
#70
Yes. I'm too fat and slow to catch them if they do.
Also, I lean pretty heavy libertarian and think most drugs should not be regulated. I could care less what you do to/with your body as long as you don't violate my property/body. And the smoke doesn't bother me, but it keeps me from bringing my kids.
We haven't been back to that track as a family since my daughter asked what the smell was. Now we are looking to start racing outdoors. I figure even if people smoke there the smell won't linger too long in the air. Probably won't notice it unless standing next to you on the driver stand.
Also, I lean pretty heavy libertarian and think most drugs should not be regulated. I could care less what you do to/with your body as long as you don't violate my property/body. And the smoke doesn't bother me, but it keeps me from bringing my kids.
We haven't been back to that track as a family since my daughter asked what the smell was. Now we are looking to start racing outdoors. I figure even if people smoke there the smell won't linger too long in the air. Probably won't notice it unless standing next to you on the driver stand.
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Foul language is often a direct indicator of an individuals respect for others. More often than not when you ask them to tone the language down, the foul mouth person often gets even more agitated. Its usually followed by comments of "do you job as a parent", "don't shelter your kids" etc... I particularly love the "shelter kids" comment. In all reality those who are unable to use restraint in their actions or words are living much more sheltered lives than those who are able to use such restraint. C.S. Lewis put it this way;
"No man knows how bad he is till he has tried very hard to be good. A silly idea is current that good people do not know what temptation means. This is an obvious lie. Only those who try to resist temptation know how strong it is. After all, you find out the strength of the German army by fighting against it, not by giving in. You find out the strength of a wind by trying to walk against it, not by lying down. A man who gives in to temptation after five minutes simply does not know what it would have been like an hour later. That is why bad people, in one sense, know very little about badness — they have lived a sheltered life by always giving in."
It is also not in anyway something that is protected by the 1st amendment. People too often confuse the intent of free speech, it is not the right of foul speech. It simple protects the individuals right to disagree with the government and peacefully protest against it.
That said we all make mistakes and I'm sure all have let a foul word fly before. I know they have left my mouth before. I could make excuses about why, but it is usually best to just apologize to those around me and move on.
"No man knows how bad he is till he has tried very hard to be good. A silly idea is current that good people do not know what temptation means. This is an obvious lie. Only those who try to resist temptation know how strong it is. After all, you find out the strength of the German army by fighting against it, not by giving in. You find out the strength of a wind by trying to walk against it, not by lying down. A man who gives in to temptation after five minutes simply does not know what it would have been like an hour later. That is why bad people, in one sense, know very little about badness — they have lived a sheltered life by always giving in."
It is also not in anyway something that is protected by the 1st amendment. People too often confuse the intent of free speech, it is not the right of foul speech. It simple protects the individuals right to disagree with the government and peacefully protest against it.
That said we all make mistakes and I'm sure all have let a foul word fly before. I know they have left my mouth before. I could make excuses about why, but it is usually best to just apologize to those around me and move on.
Last edited by Apco1; 04-08-2016 at 06:08 AM.
#74
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I've gotten banned at tracks using foul language but I have calmed down alot since then.
I try not to cuss, but when you see others doing it and getting by with it your often tempted to cuss yourself.
I try not to cuss, but when you see others doing it and getting by with it your often tempted to cuss yourself.
#75
The best way to treat it, is from the top down. Be forward during drivers meetings - if you're going to melt down, LEAVE the property. Melt down somewhere else. Melt down here, then you'll be asked to leave. Do it again, then sometimes, you have to fire your customer.