Is Stock Sedan Under Siege? (Shaft vs Belt)
03-03-2014, 08:20 AM
#91
where are you getting the car for $700, the evo is 910 usd and with the conversion will cost 1070 here in canada, so please let me know where they are for $700 that is a great deal for one of these thanks
03-03-2014, 08:24 AM
#92
03-03-2014, 08:25 AM
#93
It is expensive. Other companies could produce similar designs for cheaper. Maybe they will. Schumacher kinda half-way tried to copy and screwed it up badly.
For what it's worth, that price includes front ECS, all sway bars, no need for springs, no need for a front gear diff to work right, no need for white belts. You would spend over $700 to bring a T4'14 up to a similar spec which almost any serious racer will do.
For what it's worth, that price includes front ECS, all sway bars, no need for springs, no need for a front gear diff to work right, no need for white belts. You would spend over $700 to bring a T4'14 up to a similar spec which almost any serious racer will do.
03-03-2014, 12:05 PM
#95
Well, on the weekend I learned that one quarter turn of a wrench on any touring car can make or break you. I had a fast but new car (VBC Wildfire D06) with only a couple runs on it previous to the local championships. I chose the VBC because I knew I needed a car that I could quickly and intuitively adjust in the heat of battle. It was very enjoyable to make changes so easily and pilot a competitive car.
I like the design of the Matix but earlier this season when I got a close look at it and saw a very fast, very experienced racer struggle to tune the car I decided right then and there it was the wrong choice for me. It seems to me that there is room in the market for a simplified reverse engineered version of this car. I don’t think any of the currently available and affordable shaft drive chassis are better than a standard belt car so hopefully some manufacture will respond with another option.
I like the design of the Matix but earlier this season when I got a close look at it and saw a very fast, very experienced racer struggle to tune the car I decided right then and there it was the wrong choice for me. It seems to me that there is room in the market for a simplified reverse engineered version of this car. I don’t think any of the currently available and affordable shaft drive chassis are better than a standard belt car so hopefully some manufacture will respond with another option.
03-03-2014, 12:14 PM
#96
Well, on the weekend I learned that one quarter turn of a wrench on any touring car can make or break you. I had a fast but new car (VBC Wildfire D06) with only a couple runs on it previous to the local championships. I chose the VBC because I knew I needed a car that I could quickly and intuitively adjust in the heat of battle. It was very enjoyable to make changes so easily and pilot a competitive car.
I like the design of the Matix but earlier this season when I got a close look at it and saw a very fast, very experienced racer struggle to tune the car I decided right then and there it was the wrong choice for me. It seems to me that there is room in the market for a simplified reverse engineered version of this car. I don’t think any of the currently available and affordable shaft drive chassis are better than a standard belt car so hopefully some manufacture will respond with another option.
I like the design of the Matix but earlier this season when I got a close look at it and saw a very fast, very experienced racer struggle to tune the car I decided right then and there it was the wrong choice for me. It seems to me that there is room in the market for a simplified reverse engineered version of this car. I don’t think any of the currently available and affordable shaft drive chassis are better than a standard belt car so hopefully some manufacture will respond with another option.
I certainly don't hear of any drivers 'fearing' them in competition.
Skiddins
03-03-2014, 12:39 PM
#97
Perhaps the problem is that a reverse engineered car that is a cheaper version would essentially end up being just another shaft drive car, and as you've said, the other available cars are no better than the belt cars, and I must confess that although the Awesomatix looks good on track (and a work of art under the skin), I don't think it's the be all and end all.
I certainly don't hear of any drivers 'fearing' them in competition.
Skiddins
I certainly don't hear of any drivers 'fearing' them in competition.
Skiddins
Some of the top non-awesomatic drivers at ROAR Carpet Nats this past weekend had tones of fear.
I know people have there reservations about the Awesomatix but until you've owned one and worked with it to find a setup for your driving style you don't know how much faster you can be. My son Kyle just won a ROAR National title in 17.5 TC this past weekend and I took second, both of us are running the A700. We ran against last years Snowbirds and IIC 17.5 champion and some other very good drivers as well. I know for a fact this would not have happened if we were using another car, as we are usually B and C main drivers.
03-03-2014, 12:56 PM
#98
Come to the dark side my son and feel the power.
Some of the top non-awesomatic drivers at ROAR Carpet Nats this past weekend had tones of fear.
I know people have there reservations about the Awesomatix but until you've owned one and worked with it to find a setup for your driving style you don't know how much faster you can be. My son Kyle just won a ROAR National title in 17.5 TC this past weekend and I took second, both of us are running the A700. We ran against last years Snowbirds and IIC 17.5 champion and some other very good drivers as well. I know for a fact this would not have happened if we were using another car, as we are usually B and C main drivers.
Some of the top non-awesomatic drivers at ROAR Carpet Nats this past weekend had tones of fear.
I know people have there reservations about the Awesomatix but until you've owned one and worked with it to find a setup for your driving style you don't know how much faster you can be. My son Kyle just won a ROAR National title in 17.5 TC this past weekend and I took second, both of us are running the A700. We ran against last years Snowbirds and IIC 17.5 champion and some other very good drivers as well. I know for a fact this would not have happened if we were using another car, as we are usually B and C main drivers.
You bring up a good point as well; there may or may not be ONE chassis to rule them all, but you sure do need to find the one that best suits you if you want to compete at big races.
Last edited by nrtv20; 03-03-2014 at 01:11 PM.
03-03-2014, 01:07 PM
#99
Mark Burt former ROAR Stock National Champion (2010 maybe?) - Awesomatix
Cory Parsons Current ROAR National Champion - Xray T14
Austin Harrison - Snowbirds and US Indoor Champs Stock champion - Tamiya 418
Austin TQd 17.5 with 418, Cory won with X-Ray. Mark Burt in second.
03-03-2014, 01:58 PM
#103
It seems to me that there is room in the market for a simplified reverse engineered version of this car. I don’t think any of the currently available and affordable shaft drive chassis are better than a standard belt car so hopefully some manufacture will respond with another option.
03-03-2014, 02:06 PM
#105
Tamiya EVO 6??? I am sure someone was close to releasing a new carbon fiber chassis shaft car, but then Oleg came out with the FFG and they were like OH DAMN IT, back to the drawing board. Push back the release date...
The only other shaft car with gear diffs and a lipo chassis was the EVO 5 with the limited addition Exotek chassis. I owned that and now the awesom-o. I have had more "success" with team vodka.
BTW I just noticed the guy robk was talking about might have been me... LOL
The only other shaft car with gear diffs and a lipo chassis was the EVO 5 with the limited addition Exotek chassis. I owned that and now the awesom-o. I have had more "success" with team vodka.
BTW I just noticed the guy robk was talking about might have been me... LOL