AMBrc PT Clone/replacement
#31
Tech Master
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Originally Posted by Terry_S
Is there any interest in an AMBrc PT replacement/clone for say $50US? A clone would be a copy of your existing PT with the same number for your second car (or 3rd or 4th car!!) is there any interest from anyone?
#32
Tech Regular
Hi,
Slightly similar subject, we have several handout (red) transponders that no longer hold a decent charge.
Does anyone know if we can change the batteries ourselves ?
Thanks,
Jake
Slightly similar subject, we have several handout (red) transponders that no longer hold a decent charge.
Does anyone know if we can change the batteries ourselves ?
Thanks,
Jake
#33
Originally Posted by Terry_S
Is there any interest in an AMBrc PT replacement/clone for say $50US? A clone would be a copy of your existing PT with the same number for your second car (or 3rd or 4th car!!) is there any interest from anyone?
#35
Tech Regular
Ours are the rechargeable type, I'm not sure amb repair them, you have to buy a replacement for $$$$, but i wonder if the batteries are replaceable?
#37
Tech Regular
OK will do, thanks.
#38
Tech Addict
Originally Posted by Terry_S
Hi andsetinn. Do you mean only in Iceland nearly no one uses AMB20? Who knows how many are used in the world? How many in the USA? UK? Europe? We sell our MRT transponders to keep clubs with AMB20 running and by changing batteries in the AMB20 transponders. I know of quite a few clubs that still use the older AMB20 and can't/won't buy AMBrc (system and PT's too expensive).
Originally Posted by Terry_S
Is there any interest in an AMBrc PT replacement/clone for say $50US? A clone would be a copy of your existing PT with the same number for your second car (or 3rd or 4th car!!) is there any interest from anyone?
#39
The track at my LHS is just switching to the new system. I'd buy at least 2-3 at $50 each and I am sure several racers at my track would do the same.
#40
MERrc
Have spoke to a few members.
I believe that I could move 20 MRTrc P/T.
Hurry up Terry
I believe that I could move 20 MRTrc P/T.
Hurry up Terry
#41
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Has anybody given any thought to the legality of "cloned pt's"? As I recall AMB is rather protective of their intellectual property, and I don't know if this would be wisest of moves form a legal standpoint.
I think we as R/C racers need to look for scoring systems that don't rely on AMB at all. RFID could be huge, and a company that could devise an RFID system that could be run alongside the AMB systems would probably make a KILLING.
I personally feel that $95 dollars for a PT is ridiculolus. The technology involved is not new or revolutionary, I will continue to use house transponders as long as it is feasible for me to do so, simply because I have better thigs to do with $95 then hand it to AMB.
I think we as R/C racers need to look for scoring systems that don't rely on AMB at all. RFID could be huge, and a company that could devise an RFID system that could be run alongside the AMB systems would probably make a KILLING.
I personally feel that $95 dollars for a PT is ridiculolus. The technology involved is not new or revolutionary, I will continue to use house transponders as long as it is feasible for me to do so, simply because I have better thigs to do with $95 then hand it to AMB.
#42
Tech Master
I suspect one of the biggest things forcing the prices up is the exchange rates. I know that was the biggest thing for us in the UK.
AMB do repair their own handouts. In t heory you could do it yourslef, but i have tried to get one apart before, and basically you'll wreck the case as there is gob fulls of silicon inside them.
AMB do repair their own handouts. In t heory you could do it yourslef, but i have tried to get one apart before, and basically you'll wreck the case as there is gob fulls of silicon inside them.
#43
AMB = masters of gouging
AMB = masters of gouging and the penny wise dollar foolish poster child.
Watching E-bay and the For sale forum here there is a huge pent up demand for these transponders at the $70 to $75 price point. What does AMB do? They decide to raise the price of what probably costs them under $10 to manufacture instead of lowering it a few dollars and increasing there sales significantly.
RFID with its 59 cent tags is going to put these gougers out of the RC business in a heartbeat.
Watching E-bay and the For sale forum here there is a huge pent up demand for these transponders at the $70 to $75 price point. What does AMB do? They decide to raise the price of what probably costs them under $10 to manufacture instead of lowering it a few dollars and increasing there sales significantly.
RFID with its 59 cent tags is going to put these gougers out of the RC business in a heartbeat.
#44
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Originally Posted by andsetinn
How many do you think are still using 5 year old computers?
there are guys out there using 5 year old computers,
my local club has one running AMBrc and it works flawlessly
the other 2 local clubs near me are using old technology as well, a 486 laptop for one and a p1 or p2 for the other
#45
Tech Regular
It does seem crazy that amb have what is almost a monopoly on pt timing, and more crazy when you are forced to purchased, what we are suggesting maybe slightly overpriced, to be able to run in some of the US events.
I'm sure a clone could be made within the rules of copyright or whatever by changing something slightly, and supply what could make rc cheaper for us all.
I think AMB have been very clever, producing something that is very good, and has a great demand, flood the market at a reasonable price and then when they see that people need them more that they need to make them, raise the price??? They have taken advantage of a niche market, which will be hard for anyone to break into without and extremely good changeover cost or amb compatibility.
On the point of repairing the ambrc rechargeable transponders, my club has been able to open the transponder case, the silicon seems to be just a method of sealing the case, but the workings including battery have been potted which must need dissolving somehow to allow a battery change, thats where we are stuck... any ideas??
I'm sure a clone could be made within the rules of copyright or whatever by changing something slightly, and supply what could make rc cheaper for us all.
I think AMB have been very clever, producing something that is very good, and has a great demand, flood the market at a reasonable price and then when they see that people need them more that they need to make them, raise the price??? They have taken advantage of a niche market, which will be hard for anyone to break into without and extremely good changeover cost or amb compatibility.
On the point of repairing the ambrc rechargeable transponders, my club has been able to open the transponder case, the silicon seems to be just a method of sealing the case, but the workings including battery have been potted which must need dissolving somehow to allow a battery change, thats where we are stuck... any ideas??