rear one way??
#1
rear one way??
ok guys, ive been just a basher for about 20yrs, i just started racing offroad about 4 mnths ago and now im 2 races in to my onroad career, my question is this, i hear people complain about not likeing a front oneway because of rear wheel braking, well i used to race motorcycles for about 5 yrs and raced legends cars as well, and in that along with real cars about 80% of your braking is done with the front wheels, so has anybody ever tried a oneway in the rear? seems to me youd get benefits of a one way but still get front braking and no worries of ass swinging around. anyone think this could work? i realise this post could make me look really dumb, but i cant be in the know unless i ask or try it!!
#2
Tech Regular
rear one way
my guess is the big companys that have a lot of r&d time and money have most likely tried it and did not like it. with all the traction you can generate on carpet, i wouldn't be surprised if the rear end didn't come around anyway when all the weight shifts to the front in a hard turn.
#3
Tech Master
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I too have wondered the same thing, I come from a real race car background and we ran open rears, either a locker (which would act just like a one-way) or a gear drive unit which would send the power to the wheel that was getting the traction. We ran only oval but it might work? I might try it in my xxx-s this week and see what happens. Diff up front and one-way in the rear.
#4
yeh, i am gonna try it in my 414, i dont even have to change the diff, it has a pully that i can switch to a one way pully.
#5
Tech Addict
wouldnt it push on power alot?
#6
why would it push on power, on power should be no different than normal, i thnik?
#7
wouldnt it be the same as tightening ur rear diff and doesnt that make the car extremely loose?
#8
If you used a oneway diff in the rear, then yes it would make the car understeer because it would basically be a locked diff under power.
But if you put a oneway pulley in the spur layshaft in a belt car, and many belt cars have these it wouldn't make any difference on power only off power
But if you put a oneway pulley in the spur layshaft in a belt car, and many belt cars have these it wouldn't make any difference on power only off power
#9
Tech Addict
Originally posted by odawg315
why would it push on power, on power should be no different than normal, i thnik?
why would it push on power, on power should be no different than normal, i thnik?
#10
Mike, I know on the 415 the front one way will fit in the rear, it just needs some shimming and take the o-rings out of the cups for a little more clearance. I did not get a chance to try at the time due to no front diff. Let us know how it goes with the 414. Also Mike we are switching back on-road to sundays, just not sure when. Keep in touch so I can beat on you and John closer to home :P
With 4 wheels powering out of the corner I don't think there will be an issue with a push. If anything you would break a tire loose more often than not. *obligatory machismo* ..Or like a real man you'll just hang on to the throttle and pull it out *end obligatory machismo*
With 4 wheels powering out of the corner I don't think there will be an issue with a push. If anything you would break a tire loose more often than not. *obligatory machismo* ..Or like a real man you'll just hang on to the throttle and pull it out *end obligatory machismo*
#11
yes, as i thought about it more, it would lock up, this is were im at now.
Originally posted by fathead
But if you put a oneway pulley in the spur layshaft in a belt car, and many belt cars have these it wouldn't make any difference on power only off power
But if you put a oneway pulley in the spur layshaft in a belt car, and many belt cars have these it wouldn't make any difference on power only off power
#12
yes mason, i spoke with tom, im gonna run b&b next weekend, and i think toms going sunday onroad the following week, and im there!
p.s. hope you feel better.
p.s. hope you feel better.
#13
Tech Lord
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It might work.. Try it and let us know.. But with what i know about "real" cars they tend to push with lockers and a one way would work like that when on power(last time I checked not many people wanted a huge push exiting corners)That is what i would think would happen on exiting a corner,I'm not sure on how the car would rotate while in the corner..damm I'm going to think about this night now..
#14
Originally posted by odawg315
yeh, i am gonna try it in my 414, i dont even have to change the diff, it has a pully that i can switch to a one way pully.
yeh, i am gonna try it in my 414, i dont even have to change the diff, it has a pully that i can switch to a one way pully.
#15
Tech Master
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This was a trick we used a lot in the old off road days running Optima Mids - as they had interchangeable diffs.
On loose tracks it was superb, very stable under braking and good power down grip.
Not sure what it would be like in touring cars but I think it would be worth trying
On loose tracks it was superb, very stable under braking and good power down grip.
Not sure what it would be like in touring cars but I think it would be worth trying