172LikesKyosho Ultima RB6 & RB6.6 Car Thread
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08-19-2013, 10:57 AM
#7922
I need more on power steering around a pretty long sweeper if that helps
08-19-2013, 12:42 PM
#7924
I will try lengthening the wheel base but I am also thinking of trying out some different front tires. Right now I am running ss ions in the rear and ss full slots up front with open cell foams
08-19-2013, 04:41 PM
#7927
From post #1, Credit goes to Cpt.America
Wide Hangers: The wide hangers provide a wider rear track width. A wider rear track width does two things to the rear of the car: a) Provides a bit more stability over small bumps, and b) raises the roll center in the rear of the car - A higher roll center provides more roll resistance - More roll resistance means the rear of the car will roll less in the corners - Less roll means less traction gain throughout the corner. (i.e. use the wide hangers for more steering)
Narrow Hangers: The narrow hangers provide a more narrow rear track width. A narrow rear track width does two things to the rear of the car: a) Provides a bit less stability over small bumps, and b) lowers the roll center in the rear of the car - A lower roll center provides less roll resistance - Less roll resistance means the rear of the car will roll more in the corners - more roll means more traction gain throughout the corner. (i.e. use the narrow hangers for more rear traction in corners)
Wide Hangers: The wide hangers provide a wider rear track width. A wider rear track width does two things to the rear of the car: a) Provides a bit more stability over small bumps, and b) raises the roll center in the rear of the car - A higher roll center provides more roll resistance - More roll resistance means the rear of the car will roll less in the corners - Less roll means less traction gain throughout the corner. (i.e. use the wide hangers for more steering)
Narrow Hangers: The narrow hangers provide a more narrow rear track width. A narrow rear track width does two things to the rear of the car: a) Provides a bit less stability over small bumps, and b) lowers the roll center in the rear of the car - A lower roll center provides less roll resistance - Less roll resistance means the rear of the car will roll more in the corners - more roll means more traction gain throughout the corner. (i.e. use the narrow hangers for more rear traction in corners)
08-19-2013, 04:42 PM
#7928
I have the wide ones on there.
I think the narrow give you more bite in the rear
I think the narrow give you more bite in the rear
08-19-2013, 04:59 PM
#7930
easiest way to describe wide vs narrow....
Wide Hangers: Have more grip entering turns and through the middle
Narrow Hangers: Have less grip entering turns but more as you come out.
So if you are on a track is rough or loose, then I suggest Wide.
If you are on a high bite track that has grip and you need it to rotate, I would run Narrow.
You give up some stability with Narrow but gain grip on power coming out.
You gain stability with wide, especially entering a turn, but lose some grip coming out.
these are my observations anyway....
Wide Hangers: Have more grip entering turns and through the middle
Narrow Hangers: Have less grip entering turns but more as you come out.
So if you are on a track is rough or loose, then I suggest Wide.
If you are on a high bite track that has grip and you need it to rotate, I would run Narrow.
You give up some stability with Narrow but gain grip on power coming out.
You gain stability with wide, especially entering a turn, but lose some grip coming out.
these are my observations anyway....
08-19-2013, 08:06 PM
#7931
Intended goal = More overall steering
Reduce rear toe
Softer front spring/stiffer rear spring
Add a small amount of front toe out
Thinner front shock oil (mainly for low speed steering)
Notes: These adjustments are to add general steering. For more in depth break down, see them below.
Intended goal = More off power steering
Shorten front camber links
Lower front link on tower side and/or raise link on hub side
Reduce front caster/front kick up
Add more Ackermann angle
Move front shocks out on the tower/rear shocks in on tower
Notes: As you tune for off power steering you'll likely see a reduction in on power steering. Also remember that off power steering is only when you're not on the throttle or braking.
Intended goal = More on power steering
Lengthen front camber links
Raise front link on tower side and/or lower link on hub side
Add more front caster/front kick up
Increase anti-squat
Reduce Ackermann angle
Move front shocks in on tower/rear shocks out on tower
Notes: As you tune for on power steering you'll likely see less off power steering. Also a car with lots of forward bite is going to progressively have a harder time maintaining on power steering as the rear wheels will fight to push straight forward.
08-19-2013, 08:17 PM
#7932
I am gonna start with changing the front camber links to be shorter and I think its got a little push cause the ions are so locked down on the rear
08-19-2013, 08:38 PM
#7933
Hey guys,
I've been out of offroad for a while, but had a chance to run James Arluck's RB6, in mid-motor on a sugared track, at NorCal Hobbies on Sunday. That's the best car I've ever run, super dialed. Testament to the car and to James' setup ability. The car has ridiculous potential, I definitely look forward to getting one.
Ethan
I've been out of offroad for a while, but had a chance to run James Arluck's RB6, in mid-motor on a sugared track, at NorCal Hobbies on Sunday. That's the best car I've ever run, super dialed. Testament to the car and to James' setup ability. The car has ridiculous potential, I definitely look forward to getting one.
Ethan
08-20-2013, 01:45 AM
#7934
Just installed the new aluminium rear hangers, made a massive difference to removing the slop in the rear end, the only slop I have now is from the aluminium hub carriers (or to be more precise the bearings, can wiggle the wheel and see the axle move about a bit).
They are also 3g heavier than stock if anyone was curious.
They are also 3g heavier than stock if anyone was curious.
