Nuno Gancho

iTrader: (1)

Would like to know when to use each spring if that is possible and in what condition should've change and change what/where.

Thanks.

Nico'

this WE I' ll do ;-)

wtcc

iTrader: (2)

Measuring springs should be no problem if you have the equipment. But the numbers you get from the machine could be wrong in comparison to the numbers given from other manufactorers (see also the measurements of Christian Tabusch from ReflexRacing).
So as interesting a specific spring number can be (I want to know, too), as confusing it will be on track.

Spillertwo

I just asked the spring rates because if i have a problem with my car traction rolling and i am using the T shox red spring then i would like to know what spring is harder and what is softer.

Today i have these springs with these ratings in order of hardness:
Yokomo Blue 264/14.7
HPI Blue 273/15.3
Yokomo Pink 290/16.2
HPI Silver 302/16.9
HPI Pink 320/17.9
HPI Gold 340/19.0
HPI White 363/20.3
HPI Yellow 388/21.7

And then i have the t shox springs:
Carpet Soft Red
Carpet Medium Yellow
Asphalt Soft Green
Asphalt Medium Blue

But i have no idea where they fit in my list ?
And can you never need the green springs on carpet ?

For the rest i am very happy with my t shox on my Yokomo Car. They perform very good. I'm also happy with the service behind them because i had a teflon piece break and i got new ones in the post without charge. Just would like to know the details about the springs.

Skiddins

Red - a little softer than the old 2.4's (13.3)
Yellow - similar to 2.5's (14)
Green, slightly softer than the old 2.8's (15.8)
Blue - slightly harder than 2.9 (16.3)

These are not scientifically tested numbers by the way, just from comparison pushing them against each other etc.

I was given numbers for HPI springs (measured) and you'll find that they are softer than is written on them.

Skiddins

Spillertwo

Great info Skiddins, thanks a lot :-)

Skiddins

Thanks, but remember the T-Shox and Tamiy'as are estimates.

wtcc

iTrader: (2)

Short TShox on a TC6 conversation:

Fabricio

My 2 cents about it.

Packaging and quality of the parts seem very good.
Assembled my set yesterday while watching UFC156.

Didn't had any issue with parts at all, everything fitted perfectly.

My concerns are:
- Spring retainer does not fit on the lower ball joints, need to buy the large ones, it means that I am not going to use the T-Shox in my car for a month, waiting for those parts to arrive;
- The rebound springs come in a bag, I could only noticed the difference in length by putting them side by side, maybe split them in different bags.

As I said, apart from that, I am happy with what I got.

Airwave

iTrader: (1)

I think you shall not use a G constant equal to 10, use the real value (9.81), at this scale it could make a huge difference...

Andreas_Myrberg

Hi Skiddins,

You can add on the T-Shox that they are Liniar
They are all OK, but the Red should be slightly harder 13.5 approx

Andreas_Myrberg

I think that looks awesome

Andreas_Myrberg

If I can across as arrogant then I apology. Maybe If I was native English I could form my words in a better way.

I dont that drivers are stupid of course not, but I think other manufacturers do not really support there customers with correct information.
Where can you find on any spring chart from any manufacturer what springs to use for different circumstances?
At least I have never seen this and I think this could be difficult for some racers to actually know what to use.

Since I have been racing my entire life, some of the time quite successful being part of Associated, HPI, Xray development and traveling team and being an employee at LRP for 5 years, I do believe that I have a lot of experience and I only want to use my experience and try to make sure that my customers get the best possible and easy to work with products.
One of my goal with having open my own company is that when/if people test my products, is that they directly will be happy with them. Since I have seen for so many year how many drivers uses products in the wrong way or at the wrong place and seeing how frustrated they sometimes can get when they spend money on products which doesnt work the way they hoped or the way that the marketing for the products promises.

This is why I have given my springs the Carpet/Asphalt definition and soft and medium of these 2 types.

With the experience I have, and the amount of testing I have done and on top of this my extremely close work with some of the best drivers in the world at the moment, I am sure that the springs I have made also works the way I intend them to be. If this sounds arrogant I am sorry. I more hope that it would sound like great customer service instead.

Regards
/Andreas

Andreas_Myrberg

Hi Fabricio,

Thank you for the information on the shox you purchased.

For your concerns
- Spring retainers. They should fit most cars however some cars have ball joints which are slightly bigger then what I firstly used as a std when making them. Some customers use the std ones from there cars as they obviously should fit perfectly and could also add the correct colour bling

- Yes the rebound springs I made a mistake with to start with. I was sure that people would easily separate them but I was mistaking since many has written to me on this point.
The long and short should be easy to separate.
The hardness difference can be identified when counting the number of windings.
LESS windings = Harder spring
MORE windings = Softer spring

For the T-Shox Short, I have only included 2 springs.
- Std Short Hard (from the longer version)
- Extra Short Hard (new spring)

To compare the New Extra Short spring will have the same setup effect in the Short Shock as compared to the Short Hard in the longer version shock.
They obviously need to be shorter rebound springs in the shorter shock to get the same rebound effect.

/Andreas

Andreas_Myrberg

My Yellow springs are harder then the Red springs.
If you traction roll I would go to the Yellow springs.
If you still traction roll with the Yellow springs, then I would start glueing the sidewall of the front tyre.

/Andreas