Nitro Buggy Driving
#16
Just got into the hobby a couple of months ago and had my first race about a month ago as well. Take your time, it looks easy from the sideline but it's a hell of a lot different up in the stand. As mentioned, slow is fast; I learned that the hard way trying to keep up with the pack and wrecking out.
Race your own race, just set a goal such as just try to finish. My first race I was wrecking left and right trying to take on jumps like I was some kind of pro (lol) and thank god my car help up to the punishment. As the day went on I started to get use to the jumps and I was actually making good time on the mains.
Try to get to the track a little early so you can get somewhat of a feel for the course. Get some decent tires, you would be surprised how often you have to swap tire setups as the day goes on and the track gets worn down.
Me personally I tried my best to let the faster guys go buy me in the straights and some turns to be courteous. Some guys in the stands are complete a$$holes and get mad when THEY run into you or as mentioned raise hell when there car isn't picked up immediately by the marshal, Don't be that guy.
Listen to the older guys out there that have some advice for you, there is a lot of knowledge at the track and those guys can really help you out. Have fun.
Race your own race, just set a goal such as just try to finish. My first race I was wrecking left and right trying to take on jumps like I was some kind of pro (lol) and thank god my car help up to the punishment. As the day went on I started to get use to the jumps and I was actually making good time on the mains.
Try to get to the track a little early so you can get somewhat of a feel for the course. Get some decent tires, you would be surprised how often you have to swap tire setups as the day goes on and the track gets worn down.
Me personally I tried my best to let the faster guys go buy me in the straights and some turns to be courteous. Some guys in the stands are complete a$$holes and get mad when THEY run into you or as mentioned raise hell when there car isn't picked up immediately by the marshal, Don't be that guy.
Listen to the older guys out there that have some advice for you, there is a lot of knowledge at the track and those guys can really help you out. Have fun.
#17
Me personally I tried my best to let the faster guys go buy me in the straights and some turns to be courteous. Some guys in the stands are complete a$$holes and get mad when THEY run into you or as mentioned raise hell when there car isn't picked up immediately by the marshal, Don't be that guy.
#18
Tech Adept
Practice
Practice each section of the track individualy over and over then finally Thread it together And on race day try and put two solid qualifiers in and on the third balls out you never know you might improve your FTQ
#19
Yeah, but I took the outside lane during that race so there was no problem. The other racers were experienced with the track and had a line they stuck too (fortunately). Haven't been back out there since but thanks for the advice.
#20
This is the best thread on tech. I was thinking of starting this exact topic. All we do on tech is talk about setups, setups, setups. I would believe that everyone wants to get faster and better at driving to some extent. This topic should be a MILLION pages long. Carry on
#21
Tech Fanatic
iTrader: (33)
+1...and it won't change the fact that you're punched everywhere.
Ever wonder how guys get 10+ mins a tank? It's not magic - tune plays a big part, but so does your trigger finger. You should only be at full throttle maybe once a lap, if your track has a big long straight. Maintaining momentum is the key.
Also, learn to gauge your abilities against the top level drivers in your area. For example, I was at Hemet this past weekend for a JBRL and watched Adam Drake make a section only about half the time. I know that if he can only make something 50% of the time, it's really not even worth it for me to try to make it at all. Yet I still saw the majority of the sportsman guys gun it and hope for the best - lap after lap. Be realistic in your abilities and don't think you need to quad everything to be fast.
One last thing, don't let one mistake snowball into several. I see a lot of guys crash once early on, then strap it up and drive over their heads to try and make up time. It's impossible and usually leads to guys blowing out. Don't let a mistake frustrate you. You will make mistakes. Everyone does, we're human after all. My Dad has this saying that if you get marshalled, roll the next jump then get back into rhythm.
Ever wonder how guys get 10+ mins a tank? It's not magic - tune plays a big part, but so does your trigger finger. You should only be at full throttle maybe once a lap, if your track has a big long straight. Maintaining momentum is the key.
Also, learn to gauge your abilities against the top level drivers in your area. For example, I was at Hemet this past weekend for a JBRL and watched Adam Drake make a section only about half the time. I know that if he can only make something 50% of the time, it's really not even worth it for me to try to make it at all. Yet I still saw the majority of the sportsman guys gun it and hope for the best - lap after lap. Be realistic in your abilities and don't think you need to quad everything to be fast.
One last thing, don't let one mistake snowball into several. I see a lot of guys crash once early on, then strap it up and drive over their heads to try and make up time. It's impossible and usually leads to guys blowing out. Don't let a mistake frustrate you. You will make mistakes. Everyone does, we're human after all. My Dad has this saying that if you get marshalled, roll the next jump then get back into rhythm.
Good Advice.
#22
Tech Fanatic
iTrader: (33)
I learned one thing from driving....you can not drive everybody's set-up. It is good to get pros set-up sheet and how they experiment with different parts, but you have to set-up your car to how YOU drive. I have seen many people get new parts and trick there cars out the exact way the pros did and hate their car once thay get on the track. Pros set-up there car to what is comfortable to them. They gain this from LEARNING their car(s) and through trial & error on different set-ups. It good to use them for a baseline, but establish what works for you.
Also make adjustments not only to your car...You may have to make adjustments to your radio(EPA, dual rates, throttle response, curves, etc). I learned from turning some areas down, i became a better driver. After awhile I was able to increase areas once I became comfortable.
Slow is Fast.
Also make adjustments not only to your car...You may have to make adjustments to your radio(EPA, dual rates, throttle response, curves, etc). I learned from turning some areas down, i became a better driver. After awhile I was able to increase areas once I became comfortable.
Slow is Fast.
#23
I learned one thing from driving....you can not drive everybody's set-up. It is good to get pros set-up sheet and how they experiment with different parts, but you have to set-up your car to how YOU drive. I have seen many people get new parts and trick there cars out the exact way the pros did and hate their car once thay get on the track. Pros set-up there car to what is comfortable to them. They gain this from LEARNING their car(s) and through trial & error on different set-ups. It good to use them for a baseline, but establish what works for you.
Also make adjustments not only to your car...You may have to make adjustments to your radio(EPA, dual rates, throttle response, curves, etc). I learned from turning some areas down, i became a better driver. After awhile I was able to increase areas once I became comfortable.
Slow is Fast.
Also make adjustments not only to your car...You may have to make adjustments to your radio(EPA, dual rates, throttle response, curves, etc). I learned from turning some areas down, i became a better driver. After awhile I was able to increase areas once I became comfortable.
Slow is Fast.
#24
I'll try the generic pro setups. The ones that the pros use at a few different tracks. Those are usually a sign of what they've found that works for them. Usually thier shock setups are allways decent. But camber/caster/toe/roll center are all track and track condition specific.
When I see an odd setup for one track, I know it's useless until I go to that exact track.
A pro's setup for a blue groove National Championship track is not much help on a dusty fluffy club race track. Such a setup would be understeer city.
When I see an odd setup for one track, I know it's useless until I go to that exact track.
A pro's setup for a blue groove National Championship track is not much help on a dusty fluffy club race track. Such a setup would be understeer city.
#25
I have some questions as well, sorry for using this thread, as i am very new to Nitro and off-road, i'm into 1/8 nitro buggy, i have race on 1/10 on-road for 3 years, and just got back to RC after 5 years, i just want to ask if you guys apply brakes before a turn, as in my on-road experienced i don't apply brakes before turns, i just set it up and experiment with weight transfer, it works for me.
BUT now in nitro off-road, my co club members here are telling me that i should apply brakes before turn....is this true? i tried to run 3 tanks yet experimenting with weight transfer, it still works for me, but just curious if it helps to apply brake before turn. Does it makes me faster? Thanks
BUT now in nitro off-road, my co club members here are telling me that i should apply brakes before turn....is this true? i tried to run 3 tanks yet experimenting with weight transfer, it still works for me, but just curious if it helps to apply brake before turn. Does it makes me faster? Thanks
#26
I have some questions as well, sorry for using this thread, as i am very new to Nitro and off-road, i'm into 1/8 nitro buggy, i have race on 1/10 on-road for 3 years, and just got back to RC after 5 years, i just want to ask if you guys apply brakes before a turn, as in my on-road experienced i don't apply brakes before turns, i just set it up and experiment with weight transfer, it works for me.
BUT now in nitro off-road, my co club members here are telling me that i should apply brakes before turn....is this true? i tried to run 3 tanks yet experimenting with weight transfer, it still works for me, but just curious if it helps to apply brake before turn. Does it makes me faster? Thanks
BUT now in nitro off-road, my co club members here are telling me that i should apply brakes before turn....is this true? i tried to run 3 tanks yet experimenting with weight transfer, it still works for me, but just curious if it helps to apply brake before turn. Does it makes me faster? Thanks
Sweepers? No, not usually. If I can get around the turn at the speed I'm allready at then no need for brakes.
Just stand under the drivers stand and watch the fast guys trigger finger. They hit the brakes often. Usually only short stabs are needed.
#27
Great thread, I was looking for something like this
#28
Tech Adept
Also you can pick up driving tips while turnmarshaling, especially on a new track layout, watching for the best race lines. Then I make a few laps, then if there is one section of track that is a little harder, like to go back to turnmashaling that section to pick up something I can use back on the stand, trying a little different line, sometimes walking the track you pick up something you miss from drivers stand. Practice, practice, practice.
#29
Thanks for the great tips and info guys.